Front axle wrap

maxx · Jun 13, 2012

Having some moderate to god awful axle wrap on my front axle.

Setup:
Cj7
Dana 60
Shackle reversal
51" Toyota rears + an alcan leaf

Pinion dives to the ground under throttle. Looking for advice on securing it better. My thought was a 1 link from top shackle bolt to u bolt.

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CHOP SHOP · Jun 13, 2012

Toy springs are kinda flimsy. Even when I use them in a light toy with light toy axles I add at least 4-5 more leaves to the original 3 top toy leaves.

Its the nature of the beast, you have a heavy rig with heavy axles and V8 power combined with a offcenter pin (pinion side of spring pack is longer).

While a traction bar will help it will not be great. You will be adding a "binder" to help fix a sloppy spring.

Why not add some leaves or build/get a different spring?

JesterFab · Jun 13, 2012

would longer leaf spring perches on the axle help stiffen the springs a little.

maxx · Jun 13, 2012

Not easy to do a longer perch with the cast perch on the other side.

To be 100% honest I'm looking for the most effective within reason "band aid"

The correct fix will be linking it in the next year

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rchrd989 · Jun 13, 2012

I had a forward shackle set up on my YJ with a ladder type traction bar. I loved it, front digs were great and climbs were even better. I say ditch the shackle reversal and build a traction bar.

maxx · Jun 13, 2012

Ya I regret not doing that now, but its so close I just want to drive it now

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Jeepasaurusrex · Jun 13, 2012

Link it...:fawkdancesmiley:

WA-Wheeler · Jun 13, 2012

V8 and 1 ton axles......1/4 ton leafs. Wrap should be expected. If it was me I would add some more leafs and wheel the tires off of it :awesomework:

maxx · Jun 13, 2012

Who said I have a v8?

I originally tried using Cherokee rears. I got a good laugh the first time I put weight on them

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Damnyankee · Jun 13, 2012

I vote track bar. you can make it pretty easy and cheap and will fix the problem.

Jeepasaurusrex · Jun 13, 2012

Torch it all off and start over

WA-Wheeler · Jun 13, 2012

maxx said:
Who said I have a v8?

Just assumed, guess i was wrong. cherokee leafs are just as weak as toys....still 1/4 ton leafs. If you can fab up your own trackbar then more power to you :awesomework: But i think some extra leafs in there... full leafs and you will be golden :awesomework:

Jeepasaurusrex · Jun 14, 2012

yea, that 401 V6 is a tiny motor....

WHITE TRASH1 · Jun 14, 2012

Your front perch is high up from the ground for q good approach angle and you mounted the shackle under the frame so now your springs are mounted on an incline. No **** you have wrap issues... Put the shackle as high up into the frame as possible to make the spring eyes level and add a leaf or 3 to gain the ride height back and you'll be much happier.

WA-Wheeler · Jun 14, 2012

WHITE TRASH said:
Your front perch is high up from the ground for q good approach angle and you mounted the shackle under the frame so now your springs are mounted on an incline. No **** you have wrap issues... Put the shackle as high up into the frame as possible to make the spring eyes level and add a leaf or 3 to gain the ride height back and you'll be much happier.

Didn't notic that, just thought it was camera angle..... I agree though get the packs straight

maxx · Jun 14, 2012

Thats about as good as I could get them. They're outboarded so the shackle is stuck under the frame. I don't disagree with what you guys are saying, but its already all there, rides/flex's well. I just need to band-aid the axle wrap until I link the front.

rchrd989 · Jun 14, 2012

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maxx said:
Thats about as good as I could get them. They're outboarded so the shackle is stuck under the frame. I don't disagree with what you guys are saying, but its already all there, rides/flex's well. I just need to band-aid the axle wrap until I link the front.

Traction bar doesn't take long to build, and is well worth it.

jprcrpr94 · Jun 14, 2012

Just add leaves. You said you wanted a band aid. Couldn't be cheaper or easier. Why build a traction bar if you're going to link it soon?

jprcrpr94 · Jun 14, 2012

rchrd989 said:
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Traction bar doesn't take long to build, and is well worth it.

Not if he's gonna link it soon.

Dubshot · Jun 14, 2012

Trash hit the nail on the head drill some holes in them shackles until you find the right shackle angle and ad some leafs. I actually added a top leaf for a little antiwrap. I also added spring clamps to make the pack work together as it should. Right way spring in tacoma did mine and I had them .made long with a bolt and sleeve instead of the standard fold over. If you want to keep the long shackles put a sleeve and bushing in the frame like a Toyota.