locker vs welding

[uhohhotdog151]

how much worse is the steering going to be if i welded my front end rather than throwing in a locker? its on a sas toyota. with 38's and crossover steering. i have an aussie in it now, and the turning radius sucks pretty bad. but i going to be regearing and im trying todecide if i should buy a new locker or not.

 

[Damnyankee]

the turning radius will get worse if you weld it.. a locker is better.
However, for whatever reason.. toyota fronts do handle being welded.

 

[Mudmayhem101]

My front is welded now, however it can get really hard to turn. Then you have to get in and out to unlock a hub. I am going to install a locker, just for ease of operation. I have 38's and longfields, and everything has held up good so far.

 

[nick c]

I've been wheeling on a welded front for a few years now. Like everyone has said the radius sucks bc the truck wants to plow straight at times but its nothing I have ever had a serious issue with.


But thats why the passenger in my truck is called my 'hub bitch', its their job to unlock/lock the hub as I see fit. :redneck:

 

[mark]

Put a locker in it.

Either pony up for a Detroit, or just reuse your aussie since you already have it and seems to be holding up (you didn't bad mouth is).

Weld the rear if you need to save $$
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[MIG'DHORSE]

or get hydro assist and a high flow pump to help out... even though i doubt that would help enough to make it easy to turn. the truck will still wanna point straight. ive considered a spool front/ARB rear recently. the ARB would sure be nice on the street in the rear.

 

[angelfly]

I am welded in my rear and I have a detroit up front! But as far as I can tell it neer unlocks itself around turns or anything its like having a full spool up front:eeek: Like everyone else has said you greatly lose the turning radius of the truck, but I personally before ai hit any trails, I air down, and then I only engage my passenger side hub! I run 3 wheel drive untill I get to a place where both lockers are needed I just hop out and lock my hub it!

Honestly I dont mind at all!!! it maybe takes me 20secs to hop out and lock and my hub and get back in my truck:awesomework: I say keep your aussie up front and weld the rear

 

[1 grumpy]

Put a locker in it.

Either pony up for a Detroit, or just reuse your aussie since you already have it and seems to be holding up (you didn't bad mouth is).

Weld the rear if you need to save $$

I agree get a locker in it..:awesomework:
you'll save your axle shaft's that way:haha:

 

[1 grumpy]

I am welded in my rear and I have a detroit up front! But as far as I can tell it neer unlocks itself around turns or anything its like having a full spool up front:eeek: Like everyone else has said you greatly lose the turning radius of the truck, but I personally before ai hit any trails, I air down, and then I only engage my passenger side hub! I run 3 wheel drive untill I get to a place where both lockers are needed I just hop out and lock my hub it!

Honestly I dont mind at all!!! it maybe takes me 20secs to hop out and lock and my hub and get back in my truck:awesomework: I say keep your aussie up front and weld the rear

try a different gear oil....

 

[angelfly]

try a different gear oil....

What would you use???? I have tried the carquest special 80w90 and then have also used the Royal purple like 75w90 or sumthing like that!

What the hell should I use??? this has really been bothering me quite a bit

 

[uhohhotdog151]

I agree get a locker in it..:awesomework:
you'll save your axle shaft's that way:haha:

i run longfields so im not worried about breakin axles.

 

[1 grumpy]

i run longfields so im not worried about breakin axles.

famous last word's:haha: :haha:

 

[CHOP SHOP]

i run longfields so im not worried about breakin axles.

get a locker. runnin one hub locked wont kill a longfield, but will kill hub studs and hubs. and it will pull when climbing or put you in ditch going downhill in snow:booo:

 

[MIG'DHORSE]

get a locker. runnin one hub locked wont kill a longfield, but will kill hub studs and hubs. and it will pull when climbing or put you in ditch going downhill in snow:booo:

and sometimes that ditch is a cliff. thats the main reason ive chosen to keep the spool rear arb front.

 

[CHOP SHOP]

I am welded in my rear and I have a detroit up front! But as far as I can tell it neer unlocks itself around turns or anything its like having a full spool up front:eeek: Like everyone else has said you greatly lose the turning radius of the truck, but I personally before ai hit any trails, I air down, and then I only engage my passenger side hub! I run 3 wheel drive untill I get to a place where both lockers are needed I just hop out and lock my hub it!

Honestly I dont mind at all!!! it maybe takes me 20secs to hop out and lock and my hub and get back in my truck:awesomework: I say keep your aussie up front and weld the rear

you bought this truck complete, right?

people have a habbit of selling rigs with DETROIT AT BOTH ENDS, so the ad says. then later you find it welded or lockrighted!!

if it is a lockright, try removing one spring if it the dual spring model.
the toy v6 lockright is the smoothest locker for the front and the cheapest.:awesomework: IMO

 

[CHOP SHOP]

and sometimes that ditch is a cliff. thats the main reason ive chosen to keep the spool rear arb front.

put my wheeler on its side coming down copper creek raod in the snow. I had a front locker too, but broke a birf (old treated) rippin 4x donuts. I had to remove it to steer and on the way down I let off and the truck spun around so quick I was happy it caught the shoulder rocks and fell over. if it haddnt fallen over I would have had along ride down.:booo:

 

[angelfly]

you bought this truck complete, right?

people have a habbit of selling rigs with DETROIT AT BOTH ENDS, so the ad says. then later you find it welded or lockrighted!!

if it is a lockright, try removing one spring if it the dual spring model.
the toy v6 lockright is the smoothest locker for the front and the cheapest.:awesomework: IMO

Yeah i bought it complete as far as the front end goes! I pulled the 3rd the first day I had it in the shop, because if its one thing I know people get screwed on craigslift all the time! I figured he welded the front and said it had a detroit, but it for sure is a detroit!!:cheer: The thing I am having problems with is getting it to unlock when making turns!!!! I was told I need to try different gear oil???? What kind?????

 

[1 grumpy]

Yeah i bought it complete as far as the front end goes! I pulled the 3rd the first day I had it in the shop, because if its one thing I know people get screwed on craigslift all the time! I figured he welded the front and said it had a detroit, but it for sure is a detroit!!:cheer: The thing I am having problems with is getting it to unlock when making turns!!!! I was told I need to try different gear oil???? What kind?????

TALK TO DETROIT.THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT TO PUT IN.

 

[Scott1]

I welded front and rear in my 85 toyota with 35's and never had a problem.
the thing handled great! You do need to make sure you weld the crap out of it.

 

[datsunon40s]

been welded in the front and rear for years and got detriot rear and lockrite front and NEVER GOING BACK!!!