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yes.. thankfully..

my thing is this...

if you want to off yourself, fine... go to a dark corner and do it..

leave the rest of the people alone...
 
Thankfully the shooter is dead.

Id rather that ***** sit in prison his entire life getting raped daily by bubba and the gang.

Not to change subject but this is not going to go over well for those people who have no idea about gun rights and were on the fence about I594. Most will think 594 would have actually prevented this.

As said before, this is very sad. Terrible for those involved. I hope the other 3 students are ok.


EDIT: just saw he was a freshman, if charged as an adult he'd have spent rest of life in prison, charged as a minor and would have been out in 20 years.
 
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yes.. thankfully..

my thing is this...

if you want to off yourself, fine... go to a dark corner and do it..

leave the rest of the people alone...

Agreed he should have just killed himself in a dark alley somewhere and let the rats eat him.

Just about any other outcome would have cost us the taxpayers a ****ton of money.
 
Not to change subject but this is not going to go over well for those people who have no idea about gun rights and were on the fence about I594. Most will think 594 would have actually prevented this.
As said before, this is very sad. Terrible for those involved. I hope the other 3 students are ok.

Yup...
 
Id rather that ***** sit in prison his entire life getting raped daily by bubba and the gang.

Not to change subject but this is not going to go over well for those people who have no idea about gun rights and were on the fence about I594. Most will think 594 would have actually prevented this.

exactly my thoughts
 
every time I hear about something like this I'm amazed. I know I don't know any details on the individuals life or how they were raised. I'm not perfect by any means but I certainly try to be involved in my kids lives to know if they are hurting about something and find out why to help resolve the issue.

thoughts and prayers to the families and individuals affected by this.
 
My wife's teaching partner knows the family of the other girl that got shot and just heared the bad news she didn't make it.
 
The media says different but the Fryberg family has a bad reputation and is not a model family on the res. My co workers went to school with some of them and they were trouble.
 
He probably got the gun from his gun toting parents. This is a consequence of promoting fire arms.

This is a consequence of someone not understanding and respecting the power of a fire arm… The gun didn't do the damage. The person pulling the trigger did.
 
I wonder if it's a native culture thing, letting the kids have easy access to firearms. This case from last year:

http://www.theolympian.com/2013/12/17/2890011_guns-ammo-found-at-black-hills.html?rh=1

He had his dad and uncles guns in his room. I know the dad was native, not sure on mom.

EDIT: Aricle text added since theolympian wants to spam you with ads.

Prosecutor: Tumwater student accused of threatening students expressed "fascination with Columbine"

By JEREMY PAWLOSKI

Staff writerDecember 17, 2013

Black Hills High School near Tumwater.





UPDATE: Tumwater police found three guns, ammunition, possible gunpowder, and fireworks in the home of a 14-year-old Black Hills High School student Monday after he had earlier threatened to shoot students at the school, a juvenile prosecutor said in court Tuesday.

The student had done Internet research on school shootings and expressed a "fascination with Columbine," the 1999 school shooting in which two students killed 12 other students and themselves at Columbine High School in Colorado, Thurston County Deputy Prosecuting Attorney Wayne Graham said in court.

Tumwater police were dispatched to the 14-year-old student's Tumwater Hill home Monday morning after one of the boy's friends reported to police that the boy was threatening to shoot students at Black Hills High School, then himself, Tumwater Police Detective Jen Kolb said. After they found the guns and ammunition, they arrested the boy, Kolb said.

On Tuesday, Thurston County Juvenile Court Commissioner Indu Thomas ordered the 14-year-old held at the Thurston County Juvenile Jail, with bail set at $100,000, pending a "safe to be at large" evaluation.

The boy is being held on two juvenile counts of unlawful possession of a firearm and one count of felony harassment for allegedly telling the friend that he wanted to shoot students, Graham said.

Two of the guns, the ammunition and a bag of what could be gunpowder were found in the boy's bedroom, Kolb said. Kolb said more testing needs to be done on the bag's contents, and she does not believe it is gunpowder.

Graham said the guns found in the home included a 9 mm pistol, a pistol-gripped shotgun and a "assault-style weapon."

"He had access to things most 14-year-old boys do not have access to," Graham said.

In court Tuesday, the boy's mother begged Thomas to release her son, stating that she does not believe he is a danger to others. "My son has had some depression issues and I believe this may have been just a cry for help. ... I do not believe he's a threat. I know my son more than anyone."

The boy has no prior history of arrests or any prior criminal record, a juvenile probation officer said.

The boy's grandmother spoke to an Olympian reporter outside court prior to the start of Tuesday's hearing. She said that the boy's dad had bought him a .22-caliber rifle so that they could go hunting together, and taught him proper gun safety.

The boy's grandmother added that the 14-year-old has been depressed lately, and sees a counselor. But she said the incident is being blown out of proportion by police.

She added that the 9 mm pistol that was seized by police belongs to her son, not her grandson, and that it was only in the home because her son had taken it out of his vehicle while he was helping the family move.

"He wouldn't hurt anybody, he wouldn't hurt a fly," the boy's grandmother said.

She said doctors at Providence St. Peter Hospital refused to involuntarily commit the boy during an evaluation Monday. Kolb confirmed that the student underwent an evaluation Monday at Providence St. Peter Hospital before he was booked into juvenile detention.

The suspect's grandmother said her daughter works two jobs and is a good parent. "We pay attention," she said.

The Tumwater School District took precautions at Black Hills High School Monday morning, Kolb said. But she added that the boy hadn't taken the firearms to school and no students were in any direct danger. The guns that police found in the boy's bedroom were unloaded, she added.

The friend who reported the situation to police also reported that the boy had firearms at his disposal, Kolb said.

It is unclear whether the student actually wanted to follow through on the plan he told his friend about, Kolb said. Kolb said the boy told police Monday he was not serious.

Tumwater School District spokeswoman Kim Howard said the district sent the following statement to Black Hills parents on Tuesday: "Yesterday morning there were some precautionary measures taken at Black Hills High School to address student safety. This was due to a tip reported to the police that a student intended to harm himself and others. The student never came onto the campus. The police were able to locate the student soon after school started and have taken appropriate action."

The district put the student on emergency expulsion, which means he may not return to the school. "Such emergency expulsion shall continue until the student is reinstated by the expelling authority or until modified or reversed pursuant to a hearing," states the district's handbook.
 
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This is not a consequence of people promoting firearms. This is a consequence of people being ****ing stupid (normally the parents) by providing easy access to guns. But that's only halve of the problem. How was the kids mental health?If it had not been a gun, it might have been a steak knife. The news reports will say that "he was a good kid" or "he just snapped". Active shooters don't just "snap". Before too long the news will probably start reporting about how his home life wasn't what we all thought it was. There is ALWAYS an underlying reason to why someone shoots up a crowd.
 
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I wonder if it's a native culture thing, letting the kids have easy access to firearms.

No it is not a native culture thing, Donkeylips has it right. Many kids have had easy access to firearms for HUNDREDS of years and not shot up anyone because of it. *IF* the media has it accurate(and we know how often that happens) it looks like this kid may have allowed himself to become so overwhelmed by jealousy and pain that he was solely focused on easing that pain through revenge. If it was truly a native culture thing you'd be seeing a hell of a lot more white people being shot up around reservations or areas that are heavily Indian(such as many in Oklahoma).

As far as the reputation of the family there's always 2 sides and I can almost guarantee the race card is played on both especially when it's a family that is so "traditional" yet appear so "assimilated". You get huge haters from all sorts of sides especially within the community. Outside the community a lot of opinions are based on racial bias, misinformation and stigma. Being an urban Indian that tries to follow traditions sucks balls in many ways(wincing just thinking about it) that puts one on the defensive a lot. There's a lot of "halfassery" in urbanized Nations and it causes a very unique yet serious class of issues with cultural identity. You just gotta roll with it the best you can. I really feel for this family right now.

My co workers went to school with some of them and they were trouble.

Making accusations based from possibly tainted 3rd party opinions without having seen the truth for yourself isn't very helpful. Every family has some rotten apples in it(no pun intended). It doesn't mean the entire family is tainted.

I'm with the rest of you that believe people will think 594 will have stopped this. People conveniently throw away objective thinking and facts when they are "passionate" in their beliefs. Thankfully the media hasn't jumped on that bandwagon because it would be incredibly callous.
 
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The media says different but the Fryberg family has a bad reputation and is not a model family on the res. My co workers went to school with some of them and they were trouble.



We have known the Fryberg family thru the wrestling community for years, and they have always seemed to be a great family very involved with their kids, and sports. My middle son used to wrestle the shooter. Most of the time its the parents fault, but sometimes kids are just "broken" and have mental health issues that are not anyones fault, or just go off the deep end.

The girl he killed was his GF and from what I gather, the cousin he shot threw a rod in her so she dumped him.

I was pretty sure that his girlfriend went to a different school, and that 2 of the people he shot were his cousins.
 
We have known the Fryberg family thru the wrestling community for years, and they have always seemed to be a great family very involved with their kids, and sports. My middle son used to wrestle the shooter. Most of the time its the parents fault, but sometimes kids are just "broken" and have mental health issues that are not anyones fault, or just go off the deep end.

I got my edit in after you posted this but good to see it. Most of us can only guess and speculate regarding the family and the intentions of the shooter. Either way it's all unfounded gossip until the actual truth is made known. I highly doubt he would have been elected a homecoming prince if the family had that bad a reputation. Part of the shock these school kids are in right now is that someone they regarded as popular and well liked could do something so vile.
 
His twitter account is pretty fawked. Sounded like the kid just needed to get laid.

https://twitter.com/frybergj

Now here's the next real problem. People in general like to identify with shooters. So there ends up being attempted copy cats. His twitter (whatever the **** twitter is?!?) has another 2,000 followers than it did a couple days ago.
 
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