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Sandtrap1986

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Thinking of running full synth royal purple in my chev-yota anybody want to try and persuade me different?? What is the best oil? regular, Syth, Half synth? i have heard alot of good stuff about castrol GTX thats what i plan to run in my new 22re. Comment/ Suggestions:corn:
 
I like Amsoil fullsyn. I would rather run an oil that cost a bit more then rebuild my motor an extra time or two over the life of the rig.
 
It has been debate I have contended with for a long time now. I came to this conclusion. For race vehicles, synthectics are the way to go. For most everyone else, just dino oil. Think about it this way, dino oil has been used for years upon years in vehicles with great results by way of 200,000 plus miles on properly maintained vehicles. Think about that old truck your Dad drove or your Grandfather? Did they run synthetics or dino? I know my family has never ran synthetics on any of their farm equipment but we did change the oil regularly.

My $0.02.
 
I run just regular oil, but add a qt of motor honey so I have some protection when running on my side for at least 20-30 seconds.
 
It has been debate I have contended with for a long time now. I came to this conclusion. For race vehicles, synthectics are the way to go. For most everyone else, just dino oil. Think about it this way, dino oil has been used for years upon years in vehicles with great results by way of 200,000 plus miles on properly maintained vehicles. Think about that old truck your Dad drove or your Grandfather? Did they run synthetics or dino? I know my family has never ran synthetics on any of their farm equipment but we did change the oil regularly.

My $0.02.

But over the road vehicles in the '50s and '60s (as far back as I go) didn't begin to last as long as vehicles today do. I distinctly remember friends of my dad bragging "Yep, it has 75,000 on the dial and has never had the head off".

I don't run synthetic, but your arguement assumes a reality that didn't exist.
 
But over the road vehicles in the '50s and '60s (as far back as I go) didn't begin to last as long as vehicles today do. I distinctly remember friends of my dad bragging "Yep, it has 75,000 on the dial and has never had the head off".

I don't run synthetic, but your arguement assumes a reality that didn't exist.

I will also add that today's engines have tighter clearances and the synthetics are formulated to them. It like old school porn, in the 70's they had small members on the guys and they fit in nice. Today's porn the members barley fit in and they do what they can to squeeze them in.:D :bananadance:
 
I will also add that today's engines have tighter clearances and the synthetics are formulated to them.

all oils with the current ILSAC and API ratings are formulated for new vehicles. synthetics do a better job of protecting but when it comes to internal engine clearances the viscosity of the oil needs to match.

I love the "dino oil" comments :haha: there are group III base stock oils (mineral) marketed as synthetic here in america so you need to watch the cheap synthetics. your getting a highly refined group III base with a high quality additive package. you want a group IV or V synthetic amsoil, schaeffer, LAT and other high end companies offer a "true synthetic oil"

here a little tidbit for you guys.
O riellys= Valvoline
Napa= valvoline
Super Tech= chevron
Auto Zone= not yet tested might have to go open a bottle and smell it :haha:

that is all for now :corn:
 
i know to break it in with dino but what is better synth or conventional i also plan on running that lucas stuff any comments on that??
 
synthetic is better. I used lucas extensively and never seen any real benefits unless the engine was severely worn. synthetic is probably overkill for your application, use a quality conventional oil and change it often.
 
Hi All:

If a new engine, or a fresh re-build break it in with dino oil of the recommended grade. If a re-build, be sure to follow the re-builders break-in recommendations to protect your warranty.

For a synthetic oil, I have had good results with the Mobile 1 brand.

Good luck!

Alan
 
IF you don't want to change it very often, go full synthetic. I'm a sucker for the Amsoil sales pitch. If you are planning on changing it a lot then go for a high quality regular oil, I see lots of people running diesel oil in their trucks.
 
I bet half the ****ers here buying overpriced synthetic oil drink cheap beer and use 87 octane fuel. :rolleyes: " I run $10 dollar a quart oil and $15 each platblingtanium sparkplugs too, hot me another 1/4 MPG" :looser:

Expensive oil is worthless unless its used in a hi temp application like a steering system with hi temps and seals/pumps.

Ol combustion engines run just fine on Ol oil.

You gonna run synthetic gasoline too? Still gonna get regular ol oil soot past them rings into that precious syn oil.

If synthetic oil is so baddass why cant ya break an engine in with it?
 
I'm a sucker for the Amsoil sales pitch..

what about the guys at the swapmeets and fairs back in the old days that would have an old engine running with the oil pan off after it had been "treated" with some super oil.

I even remember one where the guy would spray it with water while running with no valve cover or oil pan in an old camaro.
 
Heres a question for the synthetic crowd. How do you recycle synthetic oil? normal oil can be burned in a waste oil heater, but synthetic does not burn so well tho.

Is it harder or easier to deal with the waste of syn VS non syn?
 
Heres a question for the synthetic crowd. How do you recycle synthetic oil? normal oil can be burned in a waste oil heater, but synthetic does not burn so well tho.

Is it harder or easier to deal with the waste of syn VS non syn?
As you know, parts houses are usually required to take used oil.
 
in most case, like the one you are wanting to use the oil for. Synthetic is not at all needed.. Extreme temps, RPM etc. demand a little better oil. That's not the case here..
 
IF you don't want to change it very often, go full synthetic. I'm a sucker for the Amsoil sales pitch. If you are planning on changing it a lot then go for a high quality regular oil, I see lots of people running diesel oil in their trucks.

Went full synthetic in my wife's jeep. With that stuff I would NEVER have to change it, just keep adding more - frequently.

I can't imagine either of my dodge 5.9 (gas) engines fairing any better.

Had a friend that ran full synthetic in his Jeep's 2.5L - same deal, burnt it like a two stroke.

I'll stick with dino oil.
 
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