Oragon Wheeler shooting

[GRW]

Has anyone heard anything about it?
I was over on the Zukikrawler site and some of the guys I believe are on this site also were their. Did not sound good though. It basically sounded like they had been on this trail about one year ago. Not signed, prospector came out with a shot guy and one of the passengers may loose his arm.
I wish the best for the guy that got shot.
Been through something similar as a teen, lost a friend not a good time.

 

[iceman1]

that sucks.......but where is Oragon?....and what is a shoting?:redneck:

 

[Money Mark]

I heard someone got shot at Elbe last weekend.

What's the world coming to!

 

[GRW]

that sucks.......but where is Oragon?....and what is a shoting?:redneck:

My typing sucks about as much as my spelling :flipoff:
But using a computer that is running LOW on virtual memory is even worse.........:booo:

Not sure but some of the guys I think are from the south end (of WA.).

 

[TooRisky]

My typing sucks about as much as my spelling :flipoff:
But using a computer that is running LOW on virtual memory is even worse.........:booo:

Not sure but some of the guys I think are from the south end (of WA.).

Explain this last quote, are you saying the shooters are from WA.

 

[J_SIN]

http://www.zukikrawlers.com/showthread.php?t=23638

 

[TooRisky]

I heard someone got shot at Elbe last weekend.

What's the world coming to!

Are you serious, I have not heard a thing, and this would have made at least the local news....

 

[sly-yota]

im sorry but the olg guy would never have even gotten the chance to get nearly that far befoer i would have layed him out. if you even show signs of pointing a gun at me or any of my friends i will give you one warning as i draw my pistol and my second warning is the wounding shot.. if i have to fire a second you wont be breathing.


that is total bull****. the old man in the woods needs to have the breath taken away from him for that. he is only a waste of life at this point.:rolleyes:

 

[GRW]

Explain this last quote, are you saying the shooters are from WA.

No the wheelers. I know nothing about the shooter. I believe one or more of the wheelers lives in WA (south end) and have been memebers of this site.

 

[Grommit327]

Wow just read the story...granted it was only one side of it but that makes for some interesting conjecture about how a person would respond to a situation like that. Obviously they scewed up and were on private property and the guy had every right to have his shotgun but to shoot without the threat of bodily harm is not good.

As soon as you see the gun would you have drawn on him? Especially since you are on his property?

 

[High-Five]

Wow... I just read that whole thread on the zukikrawlers.com forum.
That is really ugly :booo:

 

[Not Jobless]

Too many variables...

Private property...?

Shooting a guy in the back...?

Trespassing...?

Maybe the guy is paranoid...to him you were all a threat?

Does Oregon have different state laws for the use of deadly force than Washington?

****ty deal but there's not enough info in that thread to draw any conclusions.

It's not the responsability of the land owner to sign & fence his property to keep folks out, it's the responsability of the public to know what they are doing and where they are doing it is legit.

 

[KarlVP]

So what do you do in that situation?

Let's say you are out wheeling and stumble onto private property on accident. (IT's happened to me before up in the RimRock area)

Some crazy farmer comes out and starts shooting at you because you are accidentally on his land, but he doesn't think so.

You return fire and injure/kill the farmer.

Who's in the right?

 

[Wildman1]

im sorry but the olg guy would never have even gotten the chance to get nearly that far befoer i would have layed him out. if you even show signs of pointing a gun at me or any of my friends i will give you one warning as i draw my pistol and my second warning is the wounding shot.. if i have to fire a second you wont be breathing.


that is total bull****. the old man in the woods needs to have the breath taken away from him for that. he is only a waste of life at this point.:rolleyes:

Got to love the internet Rambo's!! Your real tough sitting behind your screen.


And remember we are only hearing one side of the story at this point.

 

[Mark m.]

I though about shooting the engine in my buggy saturday night at reiter but it was too late it already died:booo:

 

[Not Jobless]

So what do you do in that situation?

Let's say you are out wheeling and stumble onto private property on accident. (IT's happened to me before up in the RimRock area)

Some crazy farmer comes out and starts shooting at you because you are accidentally on his land, but he doesn't think so.

You return fire and injure/kill the farmer.

Who's in the right?

Who's in the right?

The person not in jail and/or fined after appearing in front of the Judge.

 

[KarlVP]

Who's in the right?

The person not in jail and/or fined after appearing in front of the Judge.

Guess so.

Just a ****ty situation. :booo:

 

[Brian H]

Got to love the internet Rambo's!! Your real tough sitting behind your screen.


And remember we are only hearing one side of the story at this point.

What the hell...... that comment to me feels like cheating....You only ever talk to me like that...:booo:















:haha::haha::haha:

 

[Jon]

Wow, crazy story.

http://www.ktvl.com/articles/graybill_1189702___article.html/office_sheriff.html

Thats one messed up way to end your weekend.

 

[Trainwreckinseattle]

Just another reason why people shouldn't be able to own guns.

Guns kill people ya know


:stirpot:
:corn:




CALM DOWN i'M KIDDING....CRAZY FAWKERS KILL PEOPLE. Me, If I was up in the middle of nowhere I would have instantly done what Mr. shotgun told me to do, get the fawk off his property. Even if I thought he was wrong.

 

[JeeperAmyJo]

This is horrible. I do hope the shooter is charged with assault.

 

[Trainwreckinseattle]

I can't see how someone won't get charged with something. Either Trespassing or assault, something.

I think in order to go for attempted Murder you have to show premeditation.

 

[J_SIN]

http://www.mailtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090406/NEWS/904060321

 

[sly-yota]

Got to love the internet Rambo's!! Your real tough sitting behind your screen.


And remember we are only hearing one side of the story at this point.

internet rambo..?

if a gun is pulled on me or around me, i will give one warning, and then draw mine and you get a warning no-kill shot and if you are still going for your gun or still a threat you will be taken out.

 

[nevada]

internet rambo..?

if a gun is pulled on me or around me, i will give one warning, and then draw mine and you get a warning no-kill shot and if you are still going for your gun or still a threat you will be taken out.

if u pull ur gun u best mean to use it. there are no warning shots. shoot to kill, or dont pull.

 

[crash2]

****ty deal.

One man is in jail on assault and the other is in the hospital--you can draw your own conclusion from that...

 

[JThompson]

Maybe Oregon is different, but a claim is not private property. You own the right to all the minerals on that location, but you cannot keep people from being there. I know of a couple claims that well-traveled trails and popular fishing/horseback-riding/camping spots are on. You cannot harm somebody for "trespassing" on your claim. I would at least understand a little bit if they were dredging his land... ?

 

[jimpaget]

im sorry but the olg guy would never have even gotten the chance to get nearly that far befoer i would have layed him out. if you even show signs of pointing a gun at me or any of my friends i will give you one warning as i draw my pistol and my second warning is the wounding shot.. if i have to fire a second you wont be breathing.

Until you have been shot at by someone who whole intention is to kill you, you won't know how you will react. You can only hope that your training will be good enough that you react appropriately. Unfortunately you can't learn that at the instant the gun is pointed at you. It must be instinctual by that time.

If the person opposite you is well trained, and you will have no way of knowing how well trained the other person is, then the whole incident will be over before you have a chance to react.

 

[Bunk1]

So did they find the guys grow operation?

 

[JeeperAmyJo]

So did they find the guys grow operation?

That crossed my mind too....

Any word on the status of the guy that got shot? He is in my prayers!