toyota oil filters?

Dain Bramage · Sep 28, 2007

i heard that on older toyotas (1st and 2nd gen) the only oil filter you should use is a toyota filter, which (apparently) has a anti-siphoning valve in it to prevent the oil from draining out. i guess this saves the timing chain guides. true? i am inclined to believe it, based on the amount of noise i hear from my engine on a cold start.:corn:

crash2 · Sep 28, 2007

Dain Bramage said:
i heard that on older toyotas (1st and 2nd gen) the only oil filter you should use is a toyota filter, which (apparently) has a anti-siphoning valve in it to prevent the oil from draining out. i guess this saves the timing chain guides. true? i am inclined to believe it, based on the amount of noise i hear from my engine on a cold start.:corn:

That noise is from your chain---its an early warning sign to be ready to replace it...

But yes the toy filters have the valve in them.

skrause · Sep 28, 2007

It keeps oil in the top end, so your valvetrain isn't starved on startup. The Toy brand filters also have a much better media in them compared to fram and etc, they're comparable to Wix.

Toyotanut · Sep 28, 2007

do any of the aftermarket, (fram, wix etc.) have this valve doamahicky?

Grommit327 · Sep 28, 2007

Watch www.trdparts4u.com for good deals on genuine filters. They have a case of 10 for 39.90 with free shipping right now...blows local my local dealer out of the water

Dain Bramage · Sep 28, 2007

crash said:
That noise is from your chain---its an early warning sign to be ready to replace it...

But yes the toy filters have the valve in them.

the engine only has 25k on it.:eeek:

skrause said:
It keeps oil in the top end, so your valvetrain isn't starved on startup. The Toy brand filters also have a much better media in them compared to fram and etc, they're comparable to Wix.

i do use wix, but i guess they dont have the valve.

skrause · Sep 28, 2007

Dain Bramage said:
i do use wix, but i guess they dont have the valve.

I think they have both versions as I've heard from some using that brand as having the valve.

Toyoda1 · Sep 28, 2007

Toyota filters aren't too expensive. Its worth it in the long run. I would just buy them and stick with them.

Dain Bramage · Sep 28, 2007

ya, i got a couple coming.

ROOKIE · Sep 28, 2007

my vote

my vote is for security or allied?

Dain Bramage · Sep 28, 2007

i can get the toyota filters at cost, so thats what i am going to start doing.

ROOKIE · Sep 29, 2007

i get filters for free.:awesomework:

ROOKIE · Sep 29, 2007

info

i talked to my filter guru today and he said that alot of filters have the valve
:beer:

PUO-BANNED · Sep 29, 2007

With a few exceptions every filter manufactured today has an anti siphon valve.
I cut them open on almost a daily basis and theres no difference in the ant-siphon technolgy toyota uses compared to aftermarket filters. The difference is in the filter media and overall construction/quality of the filter. You get what you pay for.

I've heard a lot of so-called toyota guys over the years say you have to run a toyota filter because it has an anti drain back valve and others don't :haha:

dumb shits :looser:

Dain Bramage · Sep 30, 2007

pullUout said:
With a few exceptions every filter manufactured today has an anti siphon valve.
I cut them open on almost a daily basis and theres no difference in the ant-siphon technolgy toyota uses compared to aftermarket filters. The difference is in the filter media and overall construction/quality of the filter. You get what you pay for.

I've heard a lot of so-called toyota guys over the years say you have to run a toyota filter because it has an anti drain back valve and others don't :haha:

dumb shits :looser:

out of curiosity, can you post some pictures?

PUO-BANNED · Sep 30, 2007

Dain Bramage said:
out of curiosity, can you post some pictures?

I can tomorrow afternoon. I'll go down to the shop dig thru the recycle bin and see if I cant find a toyota filter to compare to other brands.

PUO-BANNED · Oct 8, 2007

Top Row L to R. Fram Bypass, Toyota Bypass, Champ and Bosch Valves
Bottom row anti-siphon valves from L to R. Toyota, Toyota, WIX, Fram, Carquest.

A look at a WIX on the right and a Toyota (Denso) filter on the left

Toy part #

Filters that I deemed equivalent or close to Toyota offerings are as follows... WIX, Napa Gold and Silver, Carquest, Pro-Tec, Hastings, Luber Finer, Champion, K&N, Amsoil.

Do not buy a Fram/Pennzoil filter.

Glenn · Oct 9, 2007

I thought Wix and Napa were the same, just different paint. I have also heard that Wix is made by Dana.

I know Fram and Pennzoil are the same.

Dain Bramage · Oct 9, 2007

so that valve is just a rubber thingy that the oil has to be forced past, and when there is no oil pressure, it just seals to the inside of the filter canister?

skrause · Oct 9, 2007

Dain Bramage said:
so that valve is just a rubber thingy that the oil has to be forced past, and when there is no oil pressure, it just seals to the inside of the filter canister?

It basically just prevents oil from flowing backwards through the filter, like a check valve.