What ya driving?

Knok2222 · Dec 21, 2006

How many of you have sticks out there? just curious. Most of you have already read my build thread on RC Crawler, but im just curious if im going to have all of you hating me lol.:looser:

redbullcrawler · Dec 21, 2006

Mostly tlt's for me

Tanis · Dec 21, 2006

I run a Gmade Spider with a custom stick chassis, custom only because thecrawlerstore only makes them for clods. A lot of the WARCRC guys run stick chassis and most of the rest are thinking of changing to it because it kicks serious tail!!

Knok2222 · Dec 21, 2006

uke:

uke: really?

uke:

Todd1803 · Dec 21, 2006

Not running one yet, but I'm gonna build one, hopefully soon. They have a serious advantage due to the super high center clearance. Convetional chassis suffer on the rocks around here becuase they are always belly-dragging. Check out my avatar pic, I slid off that rock wrong because I had to slide the chassis on the breakover. End result was a gate marker penalty.

Knok2222 · Dec 22, 2006

again, Thats the only reason I see a market for it is in compatition. Has anyone ever thought of them being in a class of there own? Just due to the design itself being so far fetched from a realistic vehicle but at the same time probably the Best balance of weight distribution and clearance with little to no sprung weight. The closest suspension that it resembles is a 3 link, but thats still far fetched.

A lot of you might disagree with me, and im just a newb to all this stuff but to me a standard sprung weight, conventional 4 link chassi against a stick is two differant sports.

again im not trying to be sarcastic. Im serious, and has anyone else ever felt like the stick chassi or torsion chassi's out there should be seperated from standard 4 link, 4 shock chassi's?

redbullcrawler · Dec 22, 2006

I've said it before and will say it again. If you have NO skill in building or driving a stick is right for you. If you have any skill at building or drining you DON'T need a stick
That said if there is enogh sticks they can have a class ( The talent free class ) Just jokin.

hotwheels000 · Dec 22, 2006

Knok2222 said:
has anyone else ever felt like the stick chassi or torsion chassi's out there should be seperated from standard 4 link, 4 shock chassi's?

nope,
same motors.same axles,same tires.....
Sounds like the same class to me.

For me the point of this hobby is competition,so why not have the most capable crawler you can.

I was reading earlier today a point someone was trying to make, that the only difference between a comp and a GTG is the gate markers. I couldnt agree more. I drive the same way in either situation it is all about concouring the next obsticle

Why separate the classes any more than the are, we are not 1:1 crawlers so why should our vehicles look like thiers. I sure would be disapointed if my 900# ,20"wheel travel,10' long, 165hp motorcycle powered sandrail was not allowed to compete in the drag races just because it was different and very,very capable

I will always strive to build a better rig, innovation is what drives most sports

I still have my rockbull 11, 4 link chassis and will not part with it,and plan on building another tuber someday.They all are fun, in there own way

Just my opinion, he!! I would drive a AMC pacer if you could make it reliable, look good and perform good

Devlin

TomC · Dec 22, 2006

I think I have a way to sum this up rather easiliy and it's kinda the way I look at it.

Good Driver(1) + ok crawler(0) = 1

newb driver(0) + proven good crawler (1) =1

Good Driver(1) + Proven Good Crawler (1) =2.

In other words. Red bull said if you had skills you didn't need a stick. But what if someone shows up to the comp with skills and a stick!! OMG. yer gonna get yer aff kicked..

heehee

Doesn't necessarily have to be limited to sticks either. 2.2's class crawlers running a DIG have an advantage. Things are going to pop up that work better than some of the original designs. I like what Devlin said about the difference between a GTG and a comp being the cones. That's the way I had to look at it in order to compete in front of people.

Take it easy guys..

Todd1803 · Dec 22, 2006

hotwheels000 said:
he!! I would drive a AMC pacer if you could make it reliable, look good and perform good

Devlin

Ain't this a shocker coming from the WARCRC Nylint King :kissmyass: :stirpot:

Great analogy Tom.

Don't get me wrong, I love my NN with shocks and links. That is a big part of what first got me hooked on RC crawlers. It's a great truck, but does it give me the best chance to win? Probably not. Could I improve my skills to overcome some of this....absolutely (LOTS of room for improvement there). Will that be enough to get into the bonus points consistently? Not so sure on that.

I will admit that I personally walk a very fine line on my acceptance of the stick chassis, and the fact that I rather despise the torsion chassis, but that's another subject....

Bottom line is that you should run what makes you happy. If realism is your thing, than that's what you build. If you want the best comp rig, go for it. If you wanna bolt your axles to a hunk of aluminum channel, that's fine too, just don't try to tell me it took a degree in rocket science to "engineer", 'cause we all know scrap chunks of aluminum go for $1.50 a pound.

ToyZuki · Dec 22, 2006

I'm runnin a home built stick and I love it but, kinda want to build something more realistic or a tuber

426rider · Dec 22, 2006

I have a linked and shocked TLT and a torsion type clod. I drive my TLT better than my clod I think because I have been wheelin for a while and it acts like a real rig. Picking similar kinds of lines. But it is amazing what the extra ground clearance of a stick/torsion can do for ya.

Knok2222 · Dec 22, 2006

where did my post go? did it get deleted? took me a long time to write that.

crash2 · Dec 22, 2006

426rider said:
acts like a real rig.

WHY I have shafty rig :;

redbullcrawler · Dec 22, 2006

hotwheels000 - If the point of this hobby is competition for you then ya build the most capable rig. Just like 1:1 comp, if you build a tube chsssis rock buggy don't think you will be competing againts a jeep on 31's with open diff's. As for the diff of a comp and a GTG is I payed to be in the comp and I'm competing for a trophy and prizes witch means looking twice before driving.

TomC - You are right with the 2.2 class. We are having a second 2.2 class that has a wheel base up to 14.5 - 12 wide and over sized tires (red rocks ex.), front dig, rear stear, winch (to munipulate suspention) and whatever someone can think of. The only thing this class must have are drive shafts.

Todd1803 - I dont think it takes a degree in rocket science (LOL)to build a stick, but at that same time I'll give mad props to the first guy that did engineer a stick chassis. What he came up with is still the most capable thing out there. :rockon:

redbullcrawler · Dec 22, 2006

Knok2222 - sorry for what i did to your thread man

hotwheels000 · Dec 22, 2006

redbullcrawler said:
hotwheels000 - If the point of this hobby is competition for you then ya build the most capable rig. Just like 1:1 comp, if you build a tube chsssis rock buggy don't think you will be competing againts a jeep on 31's with open diff's.
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That is why there is a 2.2 class

redbullcrawler · Dec 22, 2006

hotwheels000 said:
redbullcrawler said:

hotwheels000 - If the point of this hobby is competition for you then ya build the most capable rig. Just like 1:1 comp, if you build a tube chsssis rock buggy don't think you will be competing againts a jeep on 31's with open diff's.
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That is why there is a 2.2 class

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So your idea is 2.2 or stick? :rb: Not you just the idea.
Many other clubs have classes just for sticks.
My big truck truck doesn't fit in the 2.2 class. It is very capable but any 12 year old kid could out drive it with a stick

Thre is a place for sticks, just not with shaftys:beer:

I B RACIN · Dec 22, 2006

I had one of the first super class trucks in compition in WA. 2004

Its a 4 link truck custom everything, and it works very well and I can drive purty gud... Then I made my son A stick Super class truck, and it will go places my truck won't, and he has beat me with it.

The bottom line is, here in WA. If you want to win a comp you better bring a big stick in the super class, and it's because of the type of Rock we run on.

We might want to keep some stats on that, Todd the Excel master, can you make a spot for that?

That rock you guys have in BC looks bad A$$, I would love to have a comp up there.

I think Todd & I are the last of the 4link hold outs and we are both switching to the stick.

I B..

redbullcrawler · Dec 22, 2006

I B RACIN said:
I had one of the first super class trucks in compition in WA. 2004

Its a 4 link truck custom everything, and it works very well and I can drive purty gud... Then I made my son A stick Super class truck, and it will go places my truck won't, and he has beat me with it.

The bottom line is, here in WA. If you want to win a comp you better bring a big stick in the super class, and it's because of the type of Rock we run on.

We might want to keep some stats on that, Todd the Excel master, can you make a spot for that?

That rock you guys have in BC looks bad A$$, I would love to have a comp up there.

I think Todd & I are the last of the 4link hold outs and we are both switching to the stick.

I B..

Would be great to have you guys come up here for a comp. We'll have a class for those sticks. I'll let my land cruiser or chevy loose on them, if I can use my winch that is!

What ever you do don't tear your truck apart, just build a new one from sratch. Ive gotta broom handdle you can start with.:devil2:

:stirpot: