yj axle swap...

dove'd85 · Sep 15, 2009

Hip said:
wider than stock but you can fix it with offset rims since he will most likely have to dump that small pattern...as no real axels i know of have it?:fawkdancesmiley:

:haha: ya no **** right... but for some odd reason the 9in has that pattern:flipoff:

and he won't spend the cash on new wheels like i said he doesn't have a lot of cash to spend on this right now... guess he will just start carrying a couple sets of axles and unit bearings

dove'd85 · Sep 15, 2009

Hip said:
wider than stock but you can fix it with offset rims since he will most likely have to dump that small pattern...as no real axels i know of have it?:fawkdancesmiley:

....what is the bolt pattern on your jeeps axles?

junkyard jim · Sep 15, 2009

dove'd85 said:
hmmm:eeek: whats the lug pattern on the axles and he rig is a drivers side drop

8 lug. I know his rig is DS drop, but if he's running a D300, aren't they easy to flip? (I keep hearing they are) I admit not knowing much about the tcases of the CJ/YJ bunch.

I may be persuaded to sell the front D44 from the '83 J10 I'm parting (currently planned to go into my '82 J10 if the M20 rear ratio isn't the same as mine) I'm going with a swapped trans and tcase to my 304 anyways, so it doesn't matter which side drop for me. The J20 axles will still bolt right into it!

dove'd85 · Sep 15, 2009

junkyard jim said:
8 lug. I know his rig is DS, but if he's running a D300, aren't they easy to flip? (I keep hearing they are) I admit not knowing much about the tcases of the CJ/YJ bunch.

:haha:he wishes it was a dana 300, i want to say it is an np 241 or something like that....:eeek: ya i don't no much about the jeep things either that is why i started this thread:redneck:

junkyard jim · Sep 15, 2009

dove'd85 said:
:haha:he wishes it was a dana 300, i want to say it is an np 241 or something like that....:eeek: ya i don't no much about the jeep things either that is why i started this thread:redneck:

Other Jeeps I know about the tcases, like XJ, MJ, ZJ and FSJ (I've had a couple D20s but no D300s or NP231s)

Jay W · Sep 15, 2009

Hip said:
wider than stock but you can fix it with offset rims since he will most likely have to dump that small pattern...as no real axels i know of have it?:fawkdancesmiley:

Yup. You'll end up with 5 on 5.5, 6 lug, or 8 lug when swapping in real axles.

Cascade_Crawler · Sep 15, 2009

find a waggy and grab the 44's out of it.

dove'd85 · Sep 16, 2009

Cascade_Crawler said:
find a waggy and grab the 44's out of it.

any year/model inpurticular? i no there were some with offset rears...

WHITE TRASH1 · Sep 16, 2009

dove'd85 said:
he already have tr beadlocks on a 5x4.5 pattern so the last thing he wants to do it swap it all out for six lug

basically we have a rear axle and are looking for a front,

the 9in is 65 in wms to wms. any idea what the stock yj is?

The only option for something stronger is a unit bearing 44 out of a mid 80's dodge truck. That'd have to be cut down as it is full width.

Your buddy just needs to man up and sell his wheels if he want's to swap in anything strong enough to worry about. :;

dove'd85 · Sep 16, 2009

WHITE TRASH said:
The only option for something stronger is a unit bearing 44 out of a mid 80's dodge truck. That'd have to be cut down as it is full width.

Your buddy just needs to man up and sell his wheels if he want's to swap in anything strong enough to worry about. :;

agreed... but i doubt he will

... well atleast not until his drivetrain is detroyed,:awesomework: and with 35's i am sure it won't take long, as this was is first almost real wheelin trip out since he bought the 35's:haha:

dventoza · Sep 16, 2009

Hip said:
find some 78/79 bronco stuff and just make spring perches.

HP44 front drives drop, needs perches
9" rear with leaf springs, needs perches relocated.

I have a tj and am researching axles also. What is the width on the stock 78/79 broncos and the 77 and older (early) broncos?

zukkev · Sep 16, 2009

dove'd85 said:
agreed... but i doubt he will... well atleast not until his drivetrain is detroyed...

Sounds like it's 1/2 gone already!!! :haha:

zukkev · Sep 16, 2009

dove'd85 said:
:haha: ya no **** right... but for some odd reason the 9in has that pattern:flipoff:

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The 9" he's got is likely from a mid/late 70's ford/mercury car, which came with the 5 on 4.5" BP....

dove'd85 · Sep 16, 2009

Cascade_Crawler said:
find a waggy and grab the 44's out of it.

also do you no what the bolt pattern is? 5 on 5.5 or 5 on 4.5

dove'd85 · Sep 16, 2009

zukkev said:
The 9" he's got is likely from a mid/late 70's ford/mercury car, which came with the 5 on 4.5" BP....

:eeek: i thought he was tellin me it was out of a truck/suv... so it comes with 4.56's but no chunk will a center section/carrier with 4.10's work with the 4.56's or will he have to buy a new carrier?

zukkev · Sep 16, 2009

dove'd85 said:
:eeek: i thought he was tellin me it was out of a truck/suv... so it comes with 4.56's but no chunk will a center section/carrier with 4.10's work with the 4.56's or will he have to buy a new carrier?

It'll work (just did one, went from 4:10 to 4:88)...:awesomework: I presume you're talking about swapping the 4:56's onto the 4:10 carrier?
I don't know of a truck or SUV (which pretty much left the bronco as the only candidate for SUV) that had the 5 on 4.5.....Which pretty much left the fullsize sedans as donors for 5 on 4.5" BP....
Pretty much your buddy needs to pony up for a set of wheels, and go find a set of '80 (pretty sure that was the starting year of the driver drop waggy 44....) and later waggies....

zukkev · Sep 16, 2009

Hell, I have a set of 15x8 steelies I'd trade ya for that spool!!!

dove'd85 · Sep 16, 2009

zukkev said:
Hell, I have a set of 15x8 steelies I'd trade ya for that spool!!!

haha:flipoff: right... if they were TR beadlocks he would have no problem selling them... but he bought then so damn cheap that he can't justify spending more money when his **** works the way it is... well atleast he thinks it does, i am sure when he blows up a few more shafts and what not he will think alittle harder about it.... ya i was talking about putting a 4.56 gear set on a 4.10 carrier thanks for the info...

boardbysled · Sep 16, 2009

dove'd85 said:
also do you no what the bolt pattern is? 5 on 5.5 or 5 on 4.5

waggy axles are six lug, 6x5.5... they are 60.5 inch wms, there are a few oddballs that are 63 wms in the early eightys, but very uncommon i believe...

there are a few years to avoid when lookin at waggy axles, late 83,84,and 85 all had Vaccum disconnect which means smaller two piece axle shafts and a weak Vaccum actualtor, its pretty easy to tell these axles from other waggy axles cause they will have a wierd diff cover and generally have drive slugs also...the problem is, regular waggy axles also may have came with drive slugs...

example not to get

i would just look for a waggy with matching 44's, 87-91, the only thing is they came with crappy gearin, but a might be lucky an find a posi-trac...the 80-86 waggys came with a AMC 20 rear, but its quite a bit better than the CJ version, comparable to a 44, just more expensive to work on...