4th Annual Twin Lakes (Whatcom Co.) Snow Run!

japerry · Oct 11, 2011

Talked to the FS today. Sadly, even making it an event cannot get us to include ORV tabs for the road.

Interestingly, the snowmobiles we saw on that road are also technically 'illegal' to operate as well, since Twin Lakes Rd. is not considered a sno-park.

boardbysled · Oct 11, 2011

japerry said:
Talked to the FS today. Sadly, even making it an event cannot get us to include ORV tabs for the road.

Interestingly, the snowmobiles we saw on that road are also technically 'illegal' to operate as well, since Twin Lakes Rd. is not considered a sno-park.

So they are fine with us being up there until the road is stated as closed?

zukkev · Oct 11, 2011

boardbysled said:
So they are fine with us being up there until the road is stated as closed?

Yes....as long as you have plates/insurance, etc...you know, the illusion of street legal! :redneck:

japerry · Oct 11, 2011

boardbysled said:
So they are fine with us being up there until the road is stated as closed?

Yup, not only are they fine with us being up there, but they suggest that if we get a large group (over 20) that we apply for an event permit. This way the LEOs won't get suspicious and hassle us. Its an easy process done over email. We would need to get the PNW4WDA insurance to cover it.

The permit is $100, but we can get the parking area encompassed in the permit, meaning we wouldn't need a sno-park or forest pass to park there.

It'd be something worth looking at if we got some big crowds for this trip.

And by street legal, she said licensed. So yah, Andy's rig is good (hahaha) while Sam's rig isn't

booo: ).. but hey did you get that plate on her yet?

Jokenring · Oct 11, 2011

I'll throw my name in the hat as tentative depending on date. Sounds like a fun trip.

crash2 · Oct 11, 2011

japerry said:
Yup, not only are they fine with us being up there, but they suggest that if we get a large group (over 20) that we apply for an event permit. This way the LEOs won't get suspicious and hassle us. Its an easy process done over email. We would need to get the PNW4WDA insurance to cover it.

The permit is $100, but we can get the parking area encompassed in the permit, meaning we wouldn't need a sno-park or forest pass to park there.

It'd be something worth looking at if we got some big crowds for this trip.

And by street legal, she said licensed. So yah, Andy's rig is good (hahaha) while Sam's rig isn't booo: ).. but hey did you get that plate on her yet?

So that makes my rig good.....:awesomework:

japerry · Oct 11, 2011

yup! ..

we also ran into issues with someone claiming that this was skiing only. I'm checking with the ski club to see if thats the case. I'm pretty sure not, since its not listed on their website, nor the FS website, and its not a sno-park.

I guess that makes all the more reason to get a permit. With it, we can just show it if anyone asks us what we're doing up there.

boardbysled · Oct 11, 2011

japerry said:
yup! ..

we also ran into issues with someone claiming that this was skiing only. I'm checking with the ski club to see if thats the case. I'm pretty sure not, since its not listed on their website, nor the FS website, and its not a sno-park.

I guess that makes all the more reason to get a permit. With it, we can just show it if anyone asks us what we're doing up there.

If it was skiing only, it would be a non-motorized sno-park, like the other roads in the area. I dont consider it closed until it is listed as such on the FS website, and I am sure thats how the FS looks at it.

It would be cool to team up with the FS, maybe get some good publicity for both sides out of it.:awesomework: Especially since they do nothing with ORV's in the Mt.Baker-Snoqualmie.

I still need to fix my rig.:haha: Stupid 4th of July-fun-time.:haha:

pokey · Oct 11, 2011

boardbysled said:
If it was skiing only, it would be a non-motorized sno-park, like the other roads in the area. I dont consider it closed until it is listed as such on the FS website, and I am sure thats how the FS looks at it.

It would be cool to team up with the FS, maybe get some good publicity for both sides out of it.:awesomework: Especially since they do nothing with ORV's in the Mt.Baker-Snoqualmie.
I still need to fix my rig.:haha: Stupid 4th of July-fun-time.:haha:

This isnt quite true. Maybe you have nothing in the North end but both Evans creek and the Naches trail are in the Mt Baker Snoqualmie forest.

boardbysled · Oct 11, 2011

pokey said:
This isnt quite true. Maybe you have nothing in the North end but both Evans creek and the Naches trail are in the Mt Baker Snoqualmie forest.

I see, I was speaking mainly of the Darrington and Mt. Baker districts.

Doing some research, I also found there is one single track trail in the Mt.Baker district that allows motorcycles.

boardbysled · Oct 11, 2011

And, hopefully it will be cold enough to do a little ice-fishing by that time.

japerry · Oct 11, 2011

Just got a reply back from the Nordic Ski Club. They do not use that road because it is designated for multiple use, year round.

He adds that it doesn't make sense for them to groom it when its being used by snowmobiles and 4x4s.

So we're good. :awesomework:

99redtj · Oct 11, 2011

should have the jeep done by when ever you decide to go and have my new gears in the rear broke in.

jacobr · Oct 11, 2011

i could probably make it out there!:cheer:

War-Jeeper · Oct 12, 2011

japerry said:
Yup, not only are they fine with us being up there, but they suggest that if we get a large group (over 20) that we apply for an event permit. This way the LEOs won't get suspicious and hassle us. Its an easy process done over email. We would need to get the PNW4WDA insurance to cover it.

The permit is $100, but we can get the parking area encompassed in the permit, meaning we wouldn't need a sno-park or forest pass to park there.

It'd be something worth looking at if we got some big crowds for this trip.

And by street legal, she said licensed. So yah, Andy's rig is good (hahaha) while Sam's rig isn't booo: ).. but hey did you get that plate on her yet?

No not yet havent had a chance to make it to the Tabs place yet, it will be on there by the time we go up though:awesomework:

crash2 · Oct 12, 2011

So how is the road to this area steepness wise?

japerry · Oct 12, 2011

it goes from 2500' to 5200' in about 4 miles. the switchbacks are pretty good =D

crash2 · Oct 12, 2011

japerry said:
it goes from 2500' to 5200' in about 4 miles. the switchbacks are pretty good =D

So pretty steep in places?

boardbysled · Oct 12, 2011

crash said:
So pretty steep in places?

Yes. and its a shelf road. Very narrow, with sharp switchbacks that required multiple point turns. It's fun.:redneck:

zukkev · Oct 12, 2011

crash said:
So how is the road to this area steepness wise?

Are you talkin about the Mt Baker highway to get there? Or the road up to the lakes?
You could totally drive the Runner up here for this if you're worried about the tow rig...I'ma bring the Cherokar again I think!:redneck: (since my trans is dead in the truck...:booo