The Reiter build thread

Money Mark · Apr 15, 2010

Binder said:
I don't think any of us (well not all of us) want all of the trails at the new Reiter to be extreme like that but I think super duper hard core EBP guys like $$ should get some of the trails they like too.:awesomework:
Heck think of it this way. The OM would be more than enough to keep those hard core guys happy and it was only what, a half mile long? I bet if we all got our half mile the less hardcore guys wouldn't be happy with that.:;

Absolutely.:awesomework:

nowires · Apr 15, 2010

Binder said:
Read the second part of post 18. :;

I did and that is my whole objective
Something for everyone and YES
Quality will be before quantity

zukkev · Apr 15, 2010

I would love to see something like what the OM is/was in the new Reiter...I watched Rick and Mauler (along with a couple others) in the first real obstacle...It's fun to watch for sure...

Me in there in my Sami:redneck: (I still remember Jeff asking me "You're not seriously considering running this trail are you???":haha:---forget it---> but hey, that's what diversity's all about!!!

crash2 · Apr 15, 2010

And thats where the idea of bypass's for hard obstacles. This lets you do a number of things. You can build a trail that can have multiple levels of dificulty on the same trail. When there is a backup for a hard obstacle you have a way to go around it. When rigs are broken its easier to remove them from the trail system.

I have always liked this concept.

zukkev · Apr 15, 2010

I don't necessarily agree that there should be a go around at EVERY obstacle, but it does help to lessen congestion:awesomework:...I believe there should be a few trails that if your not 'equipped', you shouldn't run it. Heck, Charlie posted up a map that has that---albeit it doesn't give what actual terrain is there, but I'm guessin' it's somewhat similar to what's avail at Reiter...:;

crash2 · Apr 15, 2010

zukkev said:
I don't necessarily agree that there should be a go around at EVERY obstacle, but it does help to lessen congestion:awesomework:...I believe there should be a few trails that if your not 'equipped', you shouldn't run it. Heck, Charlie posted up a map that has that---albeit it doesn't give what actual terrain is there, but I'm guessin' it's somewhat similar to what's avail at Reiter...:;

Don't get me wrong I would love a good hard trail--I was just being realistic...

zukkev · Apr 15, 2010

[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wifnysjdk04[/YT]
Lots of different terrain here...and different levels of builds too...

crash2 · Apr 15, 2010

Also something else to add to that and I know alot of us have seen this over the years with aggressive trails. Quite often we see many a folks who simply don't belong on those trails--they go, they get into trouble and typicly cause more damage than anything. With a setup like I stated you can greatly reduce that IMO...

zukkev · Apr 15, 2010

crash said:
Also something else to add to that and I know alot of us have seen this over the years with aggressive trails. Quite often we see many a folks who simply don't belong on those trails--they go, they get into trouble and typicly cause more damage than anything. With a setup like I stated you can greatly reduce that IMO...

This is true, it does help reduce damage in the long run...even with that however, the harder lines will still 'evolve'....look at what the v-crack has done, and even the rockface for that matter in the last yr...but that's also partly due to a massive and abundant influx of users...

Damnyankee · Apr 15, 2010

zukkev said:
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wifnysjdk04[/YT]
Lots of different terrain here...and different levels of builds too...

nice vid.. but.. why are they all HAMMER down?

OH, wait.. i know.. they are all jeeps and toyotas..

Gotta keep the engine runing some how...:fawkdancesmiley:

:beer:

nowires · Apr 16, 2010

crash said:
And thats where the idea of bypass's for hard obstacles. This lets you do a number of things. You can build a trail that can have multiple levels of dificulty on the same trail. When there is a backup for a hard obstacle you have a way to go around it. When rigs are broken its easier to remove them from the trail system.

I have always liked this concept.

I like that concept also but it takes a lot of area to build those futures.

I do like the idea of the map that was posted where the trails of more difficulty are shorter between easer exit routes. Also it makes for more trail terrain options of degree of difficulty . If a trail of difficulty are only 300 to 500 ft long, extraction would be easier, also would let other users the ability to see if there is a problem in the trail before entering. It would also allow for flow of users that are traveling at different speeds to pick a alternative route without causing damage or possible creation of new trails.

Also it would allow more mileage of trail at the start and as funds become available trails difficulty could be raised one trail at a time.

Eric · Apr 16, 2010

nowires said:
I like that concept also but it takes a lot of area to build those futures.

I do like the idea of the map that was posted where the trails of more difficulty are shorter between easer exit routes. Also it makes for more trail terrain options of degree of difficulty . If a trail of difficulty are only 300 to 500 ft long, extraction would be easier, also would let other users the ability to see if there is a problem in the trail before entering. It would also allow for flow of users that are traveling at different speeds to pick a alternative route without causing damage or possible creation of new trails.

Also it would allow more mileage of trail at the start and as funds become available trails difficulty could be raised one trail at a time.

Good points. Lots of short trails are sometimes nice. The down side is it makes it more of a spectator sport when some just want to be out in the woods for the peace and quiet and less people.

crash2 · Apr 16, 2010

nowires said:
I like that concept also but it takes a lot of area to build those futures.

I do like the idea of the map that was posted where the trails of more difficulty are shorter between easer exit routes. Also it makes for more trail terrain options of degree of difficulty . If a trail of difficulty are only 300 to 500 ft long, extraction would be easier, also would let other users the ability to see if there is a problem in the trail before entering. It would also allow for flow of users that are traveling at different speeds to pick a alternative route without causing damage or possible creation of new trails.

Also it would allow more mileage of trail at the start and as funds become available trails difficulty could be raised one trail at a time.

True it does take more space--but I think for something to be more of a success we need to look at what history has taught us. Not only in the old reiter but other ORV parks in this state.

Damnyankee · Apr 16, 2010

crash said:
True it does take more space--but I think for something to be more of a success we need to look at what history has taught us. Not only in the old reiter but other ORV parks in this state.

Very difficult trails need a bypass on nasty sections.
Even if the trail is rated.. eleventy billion black diamond, some jack ass in a stock jeep with open diffs and 31's will try it.. when they cant make it they WILL make their own bypass.

better to make a legal one, than to have a bunch of bootleg ones.

just my opinion.

crash2 · Apr 16, 2010

Damnyankee said:
Very difficult trails need a bypass on nasty sections.
Even if the trail is rated.. eleventy billion black diamond, some jack ass in a stock jeep with open diffs and 31's will try it.. when they cant make it they WILL make their own bypass.

better to make a legal one, than to have a bunch of bootleg ones.

just my opinion.

Thats EXACTLY how my eyes see it and what history has shown us :awesomework:

nowires · Apr 16, 2010

Eric said:
Good points. Lots of short trails are sometimes nice. The down side is it makes it more of a spectator sport when some just want to be out in the woods for the peace and quiet and less people.

I think long trails are a good idea but with turn outs for if something happens to your rug you aren

Eric · Apr 16, 2010

nowires said:
I think long trails are a good idea but with turn outs for if something happens to your rug you aren

zukkev · Apr 16, 2010

Damnyankee said:
nice vid.. but.. why are they all HAMMER down?

OH, wait.. i know.. they are all jeeps and toyotas..

Gotta keep the engine runing some how...:fawkdancesmiley:

:beer:

Cuz apparently that's how they do it in 'Bama!!!:fawkdancesmiley::haha:

nowires · Apr 17, 2010

Thought I would have some fun tonight and see what every one can come up with as far as a trail design. This is section 1 and it has about 175 acres of usable area. The key is on the map for what is marked on the map. Let's see some ideas. How creative can you be

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nick c · Apr 17, 2010

I can't really tell from the map but will the "Bonus Line" area be in the 4x4 area according to these prilliminary maps? That area had HUGE potential, would be awesome to get some of that area back.