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Is the "No Motorized Vehicles Beyond This Point" sign at the hiking trailhead still up? Is it enforced?

How much does the Grand Cherokee weigh? My friend with a 5000lb Land Rover Discovery II has found them to be a bit rigid.

Coming in from the Land Rover camp, we run narrow tires all the time. He should be airing them down. A tire footprint can get bigger in length as well as width. Unless he bought tires that has a sidewall that is too stiff for the weight of the rig (easy to do with a zuki) a tall skinny tire...

The Land Rover Defender 110 was required by the DOT to *have* an exocage to be street legal.

Not really... spark plugs don't fire when they are submerged... a snorkel on an older diesel rig is cool though.

I'm no expert, but we tell them they can't come out w/o front/rear recovery points. The rest of us have winches, etc and can easily recover them or pull them up an obstacle . As they wheel, they get a better and better idea of what sort of gear to bring along. Then again, we wouldn't bring...

This is precisely when you *should not* use a bypass. When things are so wet/muddy that the tank trap is full, the ground next to it, where the bypass is, is soft. If you drive on the bypass then it will erode. After enough people drive on it, it will turn into another tank trap. Then...

Thanks for the clarification. I'm not quite ready to swap Dana 44s into my Land Rover, but I'll have to ponder what Rover parts could bolt up to do the job. :)

So, you haven't had any problem, but I should beware that they could suffer from a catastrophic failure!? Yikes! How does the latch help prevent this? Just guarantee that if the spindle does fail the carrier doesn't fly off? --Craig

That's the one I was looking for. Thanks! --Craig

I thought I saw on here a post from someone who makes a post/hinge for a swing out tire/jerry can holder. Not the swing out arm itself, just a hinge that welds on to the bumper that I can attach my own swing out arm to. I can't find it via searching. Anyone else see this or know what I'm...

ROFL. Actually, scratching up the paint doesn't really matter. The aluminum body panels underneath don't rust :D ... they dent like a mother though. In general, I'd have to agree that most people that buy newer Land Rovers don't buy them to be a trail rig. They buy them to be a status...

What does a stock TJ score?

A Land Rover Range Rover Classic scores 670 on a 20 degree ramp. The 2 door version scores 730. http://www.landyonline.co.za/techtalk/rti.htm --Craig

I'm not taking anything personally. I'm talking about trucks, not people. Are you? --Craig

Read the thread. Your just posting what SeaRubi already said, and that Karl disagreed with, which is the reason the specs were posted. Nobody's slamming on the ZJ. It's all about having fun wheeling in the PNW. Personally, I don't care if the guys I'm wheelin with are in Jeeps, Toyotas, Land...

That's fine, but it has nothing to do with fitting a truck down a trail or not. I prefer to buy locally myself and can respect that you want to buy American. These days Land Rover is owned by Ford and Jeep is owned by the Germans. Although, I think Jeep was American during the ZJ era, and...

The pics in this thread are of the Range Rover Classic (RRC). Here are the measurements Mostly from wikipedia. RRC length came from (http://www.4x4xfox.co.uk/factsheets.asp): ZJ: Wheelbase: 105.9 in (2690 mm) Length: 176.7 in (4488 mm)...

The original Land Rover had an 88" wheelbase, a Defender 90" (or 110") wheelbase, Discovery's have a 100" wheelbases. Breakover angles, approach, and departure angles are also very good. There are plenty of ways to slam a Land Rover, but fitting down the trail isn't usually considered one of...

How wide are the bridges across Buck Meadows, etc at Manastash?