05+ superduty disc brakes

Bebop · Jan 29, 2018

I took some measurements this weekend.

Gotta draw up some brackets in CAD and send that to plasma cutting. We'll see, I'll keep you guys posted.

redneckengineered · Jan 31, 2018

https://www.facebook.com/jesse.haines.12/posts/10212960312916775?pnref=story

al1tonyota · Jan 31, 2018

Thats a nice setup! I don’t know how those rotors would do driving on the road? Probably pretty expensive also?

kmcminn · Jan 31, 2018

al1tonyota said:
Thats a nice setup! I don’t know how those rotors would do driving on the road? Probably pretty expensive also?

Around 900

Bebop · Jan 31, 2018

That’s 99-04 brakes IIRC.

wizzo · Feb 1, 2018

Branik makes them for the '05+ also

Bebop · Feb 1, 2018

Correct. Burkey sells a kit with Wilwood calipers, those hats and rotors and mounts for around $800 an axle.

redneckengineered · Feb 1, 2018

Bebop said:
Correct. Burkey sells a kit with Wilwood calipers, those hats and rotors and mounts for around $800 an axle.

Price went up. I entered coupon code "Frenchie" but it went up even more :flipoff1:

http://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/Branik-SUPERDUTY-Brake-Rotor-Package-BSDBP865-or-BSDBP8170.htm?categoryId=-1

wizzo · Feb 1, 2018

pretty sure I can build my own kit for less than $925 per axle................

Dirt700 · Feb 1, 2018

That's a nice looking setup from branik. Whenever I build a 14 front in the future I may step up to these. It's just more than I wanted to spend right now trying to build a whole buggy. I have about twice as much gray hair since I started this build lol

redneckengineered · Feb 1, 2018

I'm not smart enough to answer this but what are the general thoughts on using 3/8 plate as a rotor?

kmcminn · Feb 1, 2018

redneckengineered said:
Price went up. I entered coupon code "Frenchie" but it went up even more :flipoff1:

http://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/Branik-SUPERDUTY-Brake-Rotor-Package-BSDBP865-or-BSDBP8170.htm?categoryId=-1

Frenchie only goes down. You must have spelled it wrong.

BUG-E J · Feb 1, 2018

kmcminn said:
Frenchie only goes down. You must have spelled it wrong.

Bahahahahahahahahahaha

Bebop · Feb 1, 2018

redneckengineered said:
Price went up. I entered coupon code "Frenchie" but it went up even more :flipoff1:

http://bustedknuckleoffroad.com/Branik-SUPERDUTY-Brake-Rotor-Package-BSDBP865-or-BSDBP8170.htm?categoryId=-1

:rolf:

kmcminn said:
Frenchie only goes down. You must have spelled it wrong.

:rolf:

hokie_yj · Feb 1, 2018

redneckengineered said:
I'm not smart enough to answer this but what are the general thoughts on using 3/8 plate as a rotor?

I've got the older style Spidertrax 3/8" drilled rotors on my build. They've worked damn good on the jackstands so far. ::) But they're just 3/8" mild steel plate, and there is lots of guys out there running them. The newer style is slotted instead of drilled, but still just mild plate. They do have the pro series rotors that are made from heat treated chromoly, that's what most of the Ultra4 guys are using I guess. I would think that's probably way overkill for a trail rig though.

Bebop · Feb 1, 2018

The moon buggy I have in the garage uses 1/4 mild steel plate rotors (Currie setup). Works damn good and you can't see any real wear on it.

I wouldn't be too afraid of running one.

pennsylvaniaboy · Feb 2, 2018

Bebop said:
The moon buggy I have in the garage uses 1/4 mild steel plate rotors (Currie setup). Works damn good and you can't see any real wear on it.

I wouldn't be too afraid of running one.

there are a lot of rockwell pinion brakes that are 1/4-3/8" steel and work fine.....

Welderd · Feb 2, 2018

thinking out loud here but why are people spending so much money on making the brakes lighter?

Ultra4 rig I can see it - a little
comp crawler - you at water or weight to tires

trail rig - not worth the money

Dirt700 · Feb 2, 2018

rockwild said:
thinking out loud here but why are people spending so much money on making the brakes lighter?

Ultra4 rig I can see it - a little
comp crawler - you at water or weight to tires

trail rig - not worth the money

My front axle didn't come with brakes any way, so had to get something. I wanted a little more clearance between wheel and caliper, as much as I wanted to save weight.

al1tonyota · Feb 2, 2018

Dirt700 said:
My front axle didn't come with brakes any way, so had to get something. I wanted a little more clearance between wheel and caliper, as much as I wanted to save weight.

Mine didn’t have brakes either.... the Chevy parts were cheaper than the ford and going to run a Chevy rear so pattern matched. I bought calipers and brackets yesterday so I’ll have a total soon.

Dirt700 · Feb 2, 2018

al1tonyota said:
Mine didn’t have brakes either.... the Chevy parts were cheaper than the ford and going to run a Chevy rear so pattern matched. I bought calipers and brackets yesterday so I’ll have a total soon.

Thanks, definitely will be helpful info in the future. I really like the unit bearings, and hopefully the ball joints hold up.

onepieceatatime · Feb 2, 2018

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Dirt700 said:
Thanks, definitely will be helpful info in the future. I really like the unit bearings, and hopefully the ball joints hold up.

Has there been any issues with guys tearing up ball joints yet?

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Dirt700 · Feb 2, 2018

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onepieceatatime said:
Has there been any issues with guys tearing up ball joints yet?

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I haven't heard of to many, there's a guy on Facebook that is selling an upper ball joint eliminater kit. Said he broke a couple. Burkey supposedly only ever bent one, but I think he had 550 knuckles, so I'm sure joints we're a little bigger.

FlatlandFSJ · Feb 2, 2018

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Dirt700 said:
I haven't heard of to many, there's a guy on Facebook that is selling an upper ball joint eliminater kit. Said he broke a couple. Burkey supposedly only ever bent one, but I think he had 550 knuckles, so I'm sure joints we're a little bigger.

"little bigger" is an understatement, them things are fawking huge.The lower makes the upper look tiny in comparison and even then, the upper makes the normal stuff look like a dana 44.

pplblazerdude · Feb 2, 2018

Dirt700 said:
I haven't heard of to many, there's a guy on Facebook that is selling an upper ball joint eliminater kit. Said he broke a couple. Burkey supposedly only ever bent one, but I think he had 550 knuckles, so I'm sure joints we're a little bigger.

Have a link or anymore Info on this? The ball joints are the same between 99 and present I’m 99% sure. It’s just the size of the knuckles and c that’s different.

Not sure on the 550 stuff though

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Dirt700 · Feb 2, 2018

pplblazerdude said:
Have a link or anymore Info on this? The ball joints are the same between 99 and present I’m 99% sure. It’s just the size of the knuckles and c that’s different.

Not sure on the 550 stuff though

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The guy selling them on Facebook is Nick Barna

Are you running a sd 60, and you had any problems?

pplblazerdude · Feb 3, 2018

Dirt700 said:
The guy selling them on Facebook is Nick Barna

Are you running a sd 60, and you had any problems?

I have 99-04. I change my
Ball joints once a year. They are still in spec when i change them. I have gone to grease able this year and will see if that helps any.

Not broke any yet but trying to prevent that’s. Looked at the dynatracs but they are just to dang expensive

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Dirt700 · Feb 3, 2018

pplblazerdude said:
I have 99-04. I change my
Ball joints once a year. They are still in spec when i change them. I have gone to grease able this year and will see if that helps any.

Not broke any yet but trying to prevent that’s. Looked at the dynatracs but they are just to dang expensive

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BeerJ has been running one these axles for about a year now, with good success. I figured he would chime in sometime

RustyC · Feb 3, 2018

99-04 with 38's full of water. Broke a u joint pulled the upper ball joint out a little. Hammered back and welded. Still holding.

JohnnyJ · Feb 21, 2018

rockwild said:
thinking out loud here but why are people spending so much money on making the brakes lighter?

Ultra4 rig I can see it - a little
comp crawler - you at water or weight to tires

trail rig - not worth the money

I've mostly been looking at it since mine needed new rotors, and I plan to run manual brakes, so I've been wondering if I can size the MC correctly to have decent pedal feel. Everybody and their brother has done it with 3/4-ton chevy calipers, and they are easy to find and cheap.

I'd love the Branik setup, but not $1800 love it to setup front and rear the same.

I finally decided to bite the bullet and bought new rotors and fresh unit bearings, and hope to have them machined soon and I'll figure out the MC later.

al1tonyota said:
Mine didn’t have brakes either.... the Chevy parts were cheaper than the ford and going to run a Chevy rear so pattern matched. I bought calipers and brackets yesterday so I’ll have a total soon.

I'm interested to see what caliper you end up with and the mounting.