Elbe Busywild update

Peoples rights are not being taken away, people are giving their rights away because they choose not to be involved, I am against wheelbase restrictions, but we have what we have, so now we have to deal with it.

How many users are there at Elbe annually, and how many showed up to the meetings with DNR to discuss wheelbase? I know I wasn't there, so I have no right to complain.

The bottom line is, if you don't want to loose your trails, then get involved in some way, shape, or form, or find another hobby.
 
Yep

This is true! so bottom line...... at 115" you really think I need to take out 4"?...should we vote? LOL!:corn:
Jaydog said:
Peoples rights are not being taken away, people are giving their rights away because they choose not to be involved, I am against wheelbase restrictions, but we have what we have, so now we have to deal with it.

How many users are there at Elbe annually, and how many showed up to the meetings with DNR to discuss wheelbase? I know I wasn't there, so I have no right to complain.

The bottom line is, if you don't want to loose your trails, then get involved in some way, shape, or form, or find another hobby.
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6"

are you kiddin 6" would make me a jeep. they were sayin 109" right? and TT's stocker scout at 119" and he got "PROPS" for the that critter! I am willing to comply...but that was my point ...4" I know there could be other saying well...Im 115 or Im 121 just let me go through...but the QUESTION was.. to Gibby or the other guys helping make this point...BY next summer I need to be 109"? and take out 4" right? or make new links and driveline to swap out to be 109"....HMMMM that was easy!:corn:
 
aircrawler said:
are you kiddin 6" would make me a jeep. they were sayin 109" right? and TT's stocker scout at 119" and he got "PROPS" for the that critter! I am willing to comply...but that was my point ...4" I know there could be other saying well...Im 115 or Im 121 just let me go through...but the QUESTION was.. to Gibby or the other guys helping make this point...BY next summer I need to be 109"? and take out 4" right? or make new links and driveline to swap out to be 109"....HMMMM that was easy!:corn:
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I suggest you ask Nancy that question. I'm not the rule enforcer, I am the messenger.
 
Sooo?

OK thats fine. I got about another 2g's going in, and will be in it deep anhow. So any Idea when the final ruling is going to be? via nancy ect...?
As an example people aaand yes this is going to tug yer chain, but if a compitition had the same thing WB X :corn: OW then you would comply ...and I don't care I can drive anything!!!
Gibby said:
I suggest you ask Nancy that question. I'm not the rule enforcer, I am the messenger.
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aircrawler said:
This is true! so bottom line...... at 115" you really think I need to take out 4"?...should we vote? LOL!:corn:
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Nuzzy said:
You can if you want, but I'd prolly take out 6"...



:fawkdancesmiley::haha:
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aircrawler said:
are you kiddin 6" would make me a jeep. they were sayin 109" right? and TT's stocker scout at 119" and he got "PROPS" for the that critter! I am willing to comply...but that was my point ...4" I know there could be other saying well...Im 115 or Im 121 just let me go through...but the QUESTION was.. to Gibby or the other guys helping make this point...BY next summer I need to be 109"? and take out 4" right? or make new links and driveline to swap out to be 109"....HMMMM that was easy!:corn:
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I'm confused by your math. If you're 115", you would need to take out 6" to be 109"...



Then again, I confuse easily and will now back away quietly from the thread unitl I have something pertinant to add :D
 
aircrawler said:
OK thats fine. I got about another 2g's going in, and will be in it deep anhow. So any Idea when the final ruling is going to be? via nancy ect...?
As an example people aaand yes this is going to tug yer chain, but if a compitition had the same thing WB X :corn: OW then you would comply ...and I don't care I can drive anything!!!
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The mouth from the south.:redneck:
 
aircrawler said:
are you kiddin 6" would make me a jeep. they were sayin 109" right? and TT's stocker scout at 119" and he got "PROPS" for the that critter! I am willing to comply...but that was my point ...4" I know there could be other saying well...Im 115 or Im 121 just let me go through...but the QUESTION was.. to Gibby or the other guys helping make this point...BY next summer I need to be 109"? and take out 4" right? or make new links and driveline to swap out to be 109"....HMMMM that was easy!:corn:
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Well shorting isn't an option for me. My Scout came stock 119" I'm not gonna whine "what about me?" Next time I bring it up the very first place I'm going is Elbe and when some guy asks me "excuse me can I measure your wheelbase" I'm gonna tell him to take walk! I know some people are gonna say that's the attitude that got us here but it's my kind of rig that goes in there in the middle of the night and saves those broken down rigs with there 100" wheelbase who thought they were superman. I think somebody let miss nancy on a power trip and it's easier for you guys to say ok because it wont bothe you than fight for the all! I've paid my pnw dues, put on shows at mudbogs, rockcrawls and I buy there raffle tickets! So don't play the line you're gonna give Putman I've paid!
 
T T said:
Well shorting isn't an option for me. My Scout came stock 119" I'm not gonna whine "what about me?" Next time I bring it up the very first place I'm going is Elbe and when some guy asks me "excuse me can I measure your wheelbase" I'm gonna tell him to take walk! I know some people are gonna say that's the attitude that got us here but it's my kind of rig that goes in there in the middle of the night and saves those broken down rigs with there 100" wheelbase who thought they were superman. I think somebody let miss nancy on a power trip and it's easier for you guys to say ok because it wont bothe you than fight for the all! I've paid my pnw dues, put on shows at mudbogs, rockcrawls and I buy there raffle tickets! So don't play the line you're gonna give Putman I've paid!
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I agree, they just put in a stop sign down the street, and I have lived here long before they put it up, I don't agree with it, so therefore I ain't stopping for it, and when the cop stops me, I'm gonna tell him to take a walk.......sounds like pretty good logic to me :;
 
So basically what's happening here is that there's a set of rules in place that aren't enforced but the powers in charge aren't happy with the way things are going so they're making more rules thus closing some guys out. These new rules still won't be enforcded so eventually the powers in charge are going to make up still more rules and close more guys out.:rolleyes: This is visciouse cycle that eventually ends in everyone being closed out of the trails and powers it charge never getting off of their ass to do their job. The concern right now is they think that longer wheelbase rigs are causing damage and they want to do something about it so they make up new rules but wait, there's rules in place now covering this......
Give me a fawkin break, this stinks like ****!:looser:
 
T T said:
Well shorting isn't an option for me. My Scout came stock 119" I'm not gonna whine "what about me?" Next time I bring it up the very first place I'm going is Elbe and when some guy asks me "excuse me can I measure your wheelbase" I'm gonna tell him to take walk! I know some people are gonna say that's the attitude that got us here but it's my kind of rig that goes in there in the middle of the night and saves those broken down rigs with there 100" wheelbase who thought they were superman. I think somebody let miss nancy on a power trip and it's easier for you guys to say ok because it wont bothe you than fight for the all! I've paid my pnw dues, put on shows at mudbogs, rockcrawls and I buy there raffle tickets! So don't play the line you're gonna give Putman I've paid!
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So your a member now? Paying dues once or twice is fine and appreciated But I and MANY others have been doing it for decades. This is a long term issue were involved with. We take the good with the bad and we move on and do what it takes to preserve our sport even if we dont like it at times. We still have it better than most places in this country:cheer:
 
Jaydog said:
Peoples rights are not being taken away, people are giving their rights away because they choose not to be involved, I am against wheelbase restrictions, but we have what we have, so now we have to deal with it.

How many users are there at Elbe annually, and how many showed up to the meetings with DNR to discuss wheelbase? I know I wasn't there, so I have no right to complain.

The bottom line is, if you don't want to loose your trails, then get involved in some way, shape, or form, or find another hobby.
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But you were represented by Dale who is the rep for the PNW. I dont think a meeting full of angry people is going to acomplish anything other than piss off the people that make the rules. If dale thinks having more people will do some good then lets show up and be respectful. :awesomework:
 
pokey said:
But you were represented by Dale who is the rep for the PNW. I dont think a meeting full of angry people is going to acomplish anything other than piss off the people that make the rules. If dale thinks having more people will do some good then lets show up and be respectful. :awesomework:
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Yeah. Jaydog's just a lazy bum anyway. He has absolutely no class and would do nothing productive at any meeting. Someday I'll teach him how to drive a dozer and make a lousy coffee!!!

Nancy can't stand him so it's better that he stay home or Nancy won't go for ANYTHING that we want.:stirpot: :stirpot:
 
Gibby said:
Yeah. Jaydog's just a lazy bum anyway. He has absolutely no class and would do nothing productive at any meeting. Someday I'll teach him how to drive a dozer and make a lousy coffee!!!

Nancy can't stand him so it's better that he stay home or Nancy won't go for ANYTHING that we want.:stirpot: :stirpot:
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As long as it doesn't interfere with my nap time, then I might drag my butt off the couch and go, but only if there's donuts. :haha:
 
Jaydog said:
As long as it doesn't interfere with my nap time, then I might drag my butt off the couch and go, but only if there's donuts. :haha:
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I'll throw some doughnuts in the middle of I5 for you. I'll give you and blindfold and you'd still probably try to sniff them out! But I'm sure that'd be too much work for you.:kissmyass: :corn:
 
Gibby said:
I'll throw some doughnuts in the middle of I5 for you. I'll give you and blindfold and you'd still probably try to sniff them out! But I'm sure that'd be too much work for you.:kissmyass: :corn:
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Don't you have a parade to attend :D
 
While you're at it being a lazy good for nothing slob, are you bringing that big orange toy on Saturday? You could have that new rock crawl/hill built for us in a couple of hours. We've got about 10-15 dump truck loads sitting beside that big mound that need to get moved and then of course find a creative way to get all those culverts and boulders in place.

If, not, I can't wait to see you try to make it through some of our new obtacles. You'd better have your winch up and running cause I BETcha you can't get across those piles of dirt, mud, logs and rocks without getting stuck.

Of course, maybe you should bring that big orange toy, we may need it to lift some people back out:cheer: :haha: :haha:

The mud bogs should be FULL as well and I know you love the mud!
 

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