TBItoy
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wizzo said:
Heck yeah.
bgredjeep said:
Wasn't the entry fee for dirt riot races in the $100+ range? pretty sure it was.
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Heck yeah.
Wasn't the entry fee for dirt riot races in the $100+ range? pretty sure it was.
godevil
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extremetownie said:
You need a co driver?
Rjhoward32006
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I would think the $50/$100 would be about right. We pay $50 for the 4 banger races. I think one of the downfalls of some of the endurance racing from before was that the racers were told if you do not like how I am running things etc... to sit out a couple races/ season. Therefore when it hurts the promoters pocket also things will get changed. well it didn't. he took it as no-one wanted to race. Plenty wanted to and some had been, but didn't like some of the things that were going on so they took the promoters word to the bank...
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My last race with dirt riot was 153.00 to enter. I was trail modified. I'd pay 100 to race again but would like the prize for first place to be more than 400.
I like racing but we all know it cost to race. And when you win first and it only pays for what it cost to get to the race and entry fee it sucks. It's one thing to race a trail rig and win vs building/buying a race rig to race. My opinion is racing only works when the prize benefits the winners. No I don't expect to break even overall but with dirt riots payout if you cut a tire and still won youd loose money.
My last race with dirt riot was 153.00 to enter. I was trail modified. I'd pay 100 to race again but would like the prize for first place to be more than 400.
I like racing but we all know it cost to race. And when you win first and it only pays for what it cost to get to the race and entry fee it sucks. It's one thing to race a trail rig and win vs building/buying a race rig to race. My opinion is racing only works when the prize benefits the winners. No I don't expect to break even overall but with dirt riots payout if you cut a tire and still won youd loose money.
onetoncrawler
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$100 for unlimited would be awesome
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The problem I saw while helping with ECORS was spectators. You have to get a crowd there to help get the bigger pay outs. But when you have more racers than people to watch it is hard to have larger pay outs. These parks have to pay out large amounts of money for event insurance. Then they have time invested to set up the track/course. You cannot ask these park owners and promoters to lose major money on these races. Even with just 50% pay out from racer entry fees they lose a lot of money. Find away to get people to come watch it then you will see more endurance racers.
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The problem I saw while helping with ECORS was spectators. You have to get a crowd there to help get the bigger pay outs. But when you have more racers than people to watch it is hard to have larger pay outs. These parks have to pay out large amounts of money for event insurance. Then they have time invested to set up the track/course. You cannot ask these park owners and promoters to lose major money on these races. Even with just 50% pay out from racer entry fees they lose a lot of money. Find away to get people to come watch it then you will see more endurance racers.
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onetoncrawler
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agree 100%, and I think the only way to get the crowd involved is provide constant action. Have sections of short course with side by side action like in the knock out series. Also something that U4 does that works well is set up a jumbo tron with live feed from various obstacles throughout the course. So the spectators can see the live feed and the short course from one location.
paring these events with the rockbouncer, SXS and megatruck events would definitely offset some of the cost
Pumpkin said:
agree 100%, and I think the only way to get the crowd involved is provide constant action. Have sections of short course with side by side action like in the knock out series. Also something that U4 does that works well is set up a jumbo tron with live feed from various obstacles throughout the course. So the spectators can see the live feed and the short course from one location.
paring these events with the rockbouncer, SXS and megatruck events would definitely offset some of the cost
wizzo
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Pumpkin said:
onetoncrawler said:
IMO, this is why you've seen Ultra 4 go to more of a "short course" lay out for almost every event other than King of the Hammers. Short course keeps the crowd involved. At most ECORS events, spectators would see limited action and get bored. And who can blame them.
5BrothersFabrication
Zzzzz....
wizzo said:
The setup at Dayton was on point. The long front stretch, zig zag up top, and the field section in the back, all spectator accessible was real nice.
Jody Treadway
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I was an OG ECORS racer back in the day.
The best course for spectators was without a doubt the Spartanburg SC race. It was a combo of dirt track, man made concrete obstacles and super tight. The fans could see every inch of the race.
Devils Playground was good for the same reasons.
We had long, drawn out threads on the ECORS home site, NC4X4, in the past that all pointed to a few common things a successful series needs. Keep it simple, keep fans interested and keep the races somewhat close. As ECORS grew, the races got further and further apart and that really thinned out the racer count.
I think a series where 2 races were at "X" and 2 races were at "Y", both places geographically close to each other and a finale somewhere cool would be a great recipe. Drop the points from one of the first 4 races in case someone misses one and the finale race is double points
The best course for spectators was without a doubt the Spartanburg SC race. It was a combo of dirt track, man made concrete obstacles and super tight. The fans could see every inch of the race.
Devils Playground was good for the same reasons.
We had long, drawn out threads on the ECORS home site, NC4X4, in the past that all pointed to a few common things a successful series needs. Keep it simple, keep fans interested and keep the races somewhat close. As ECORS grew, the races got further and further apart and that really thinned out the racer count.
I think a series where 2 races were at "X" and 2 races were at "Y", both places geographically close to each other and a finale somewhere cool would be a great recipe. Drop the points from one of the first 4 races in case someone misses one and the finale race is double points
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Spectators not being able to access the good spots is something I noticed Ultra4 needs to improve on. At the Badlands, the only place we could go watch was the arena and the quarry. We couldn't access the sand dunes to see the high speed action, and there was a option line required to be done one time that was out of reach of spectators. Just make sure they can get to where the action is happening.
Rjhoward32006
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Bump for info
extremetownie
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Somebody buy the equipment so we can go racing.Damit
74_Chevota
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Jody hit the nail on the head. I raced ECORS the first two seasons in the C class. When the races started getting further apart, it was hard for people to follow the entire series. It was a heck of alot of fun though.
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