How wide are you

nowires · Oct 19, 2009

nate8887 said:
I completely agree with you, BUT lets keep the enviromental talk to a Down Low. We need to push this word completely away from our sports. It just gives us all bad publicity.

Agree lets work together to resolve things and come up with a plan that we can take to DNR

Corey Y · Oct 19, 2009

Hey hawker, what do you think about the single track trails at Evans Creek?

nate8887 · Oct 19, 2009

I love them, but that wasnt asked of me.

zukkev · Oct 19, 2009

crash said:
I am not nure how tahulya(sp) is setup but walker is a prime example of how I think it should be done(not speaking in difficult levels) as for trail layout. But right now--there is only speculation and nothing more..

As for multi-use at Walker---using the last area we worked on as an example, there is a singletrack trail about 1/2 way up, and I asked EVERY biker on their way through that came across us working what they thought of the work we did a few months back (the start of this project)....EVERY one really like the technical aspect of it for them, while at the same time it made it safer for all as they couldn't blow through there at 30+ like before, not to mention the 4x4's slowing down through this particular section...less chance of a head on...IMO a win/win for all....:awesomework:

dirtbikejunkie · Oct 19, 2009

Crazy Daze said:
Well from our point of view look at how many miles of single track trails there are in the northwest compared to 4x4 trails. At Tahuya it is 100:8. You guys have the whole Capital Forest too, how many single track trails are out there? Every year there are fewer places for us to go.

It doesn't matter how many miles of trail are designated else where.

Currently there is no legal motorized use in snohomish county, be it MC, 4x4, etc. That is what we are all fighting for.

we all have stake in reiter. we need to recognize each others needs and do our best to govern our own to not infringe on each others enjoyment.

nate8887 · Oct 19, 2009

You guys have to remember just like we have diffrent user groups within wheeling so do the bike guys.

Buggy guys= Trials guys

Trail rigs = Good bike rider

Stockish pickup = New bike rider

Now just like we all need diffrent trails and enjoy diffrent trails. They are the same way.

Corey Y · Oct 19, 2009

dirtbikejunkie said:
We all have stake in reiter. we need to recognize each others needs and do our best to govern our own to not infringe on each others enjoyment.

I agree 100%.

Money Mark · Oct 19, 2009

Here is a visual example of what a "shared trail" could look like.

HOrunner · Oct 19, 2009

Finally light at the end of the tunnel :awesomework:

nowires · Oct 20, 2009

great example Mark

mark · Oct 20, 2009

So the red line outlines the area in question, the Blue line is one track (lets say 4x4) and the purple-ish line is another track (lets say single)? So they don't really "share" the same trail, but criss-cross it along the same "corridor".

???

Different that what I would concider a "multi use trail", I like it much better.

stealthrunner1 · Oct 20, 2009

Money Mark said:
Here is a visual example of what a "shared trail" could look like.

I like your example also money!!!!:awesomework::beer: Easely understandable!!!:awesomework:

1 grumpy · Oct 20, 2009

stealthrunner said:
I like your example also money!!!!:awesomework::beer: Easely understandable!!!:awesomework:

x2 :awesomework:

Money Mark · Oct 20, 2009

mark said:
So the red line outlines the area in question, the Blue line is one track (lets say 4x4) and the purple-ish line is another track (lets say single)? So they don't really "share" the same trail, but criss-cross it along the same "corridor".

???

Different that what I would concider a "multi use trail", I like it much better.

Correct-o-mundo.:awesomework:

This is how it was explained to me and how I understand it.

Wether the "powers that be" and trail designer (whomever this is) agree to this concept is a different story. But I think it does satisfy both 4x4 and 2x2 wants and needs.

nate8887 · Oct 20, 2009

Great F-ing Idea.

Binder · Oct 20, 2009

I don't see a pink line on my map.....I got blue- green- red..

Money Mark · Oct 20, 2009

Binder said:
I don't see a pink line on my map.....I got blue- green- red..

After scanning the original map, the pink line turned into a faded green-ish.:eeek:You get the idea though.....the 2 trails would only share portions of the same "trail".

mark · Oct 20, 2009

Binder said:
I don't see a pink line on my map.....I got blue- green- red..

Your computer sucks

Another food for thought for whoever the "trail designer" is... Something that I have seen down in Oregon (Browns camps?).. the 4x4 (or single track) trails criss-cross with a basically graded logging road. Think of the logging road switching back and forth and the "hard" trails in between the switch backs. Makes is VERY easy to extract broken rigs, keep a group of various ability wheelers together (those not up to the task take the road to the top of the obstacle and wait/watch the rest of the group), also easy for one group to go around another, slower (or broken) group without blazing new trails. I've noticed parts of Naches the same way, the trails are broken up on occasion by the main road, allowing people to move around quite easily and maximize their recreation time.

food for thought. Doesn't work in all situations, but if the terrain allows it, can have its advantages.

Money Mark · Oct 20, 2009

mark said:
Think of the logging road switching back and forth and the "hard" trails in between the switch backs. Makes is VERY easy to extract broken rigs, keep a group of various ability wheelers together (those not up to the task take the road to the top of the obstacle and wait/watch the rest of the group), also easy for one group to go around another, slower (or broken) group without blazing new trails.

:awesomework:

Another idea was to make one side of the corridor boundary the easy trail (like your example). A TRUE multi-user trail corridor.