jeepermc
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What yr?? Your right though, there were so many different turbos put on Fords..
No wastegate on OBS trucks. 94-97
What yr?? Your right though, there were so many different turbos put on Fords..
I don't work on them, but I think the weaknesses of all the engines are the smog and computer crap, we never had issues with diesels in our tractors or equipment, heck they would run on anything and last forever.
What smaller engine are you comparing what to?Here's some food for thought, a comparison between the two.......
Two engines with the same power output. One is smaller than the other- cubic inches. The smaller engine has a higher compression ratio and more turbo boost which is harder on components so they must be beefier. The larger engine can have a lower compression ratio and less boost to make the same power so the components don't need to be as beefy. Now take into account that the smaller engine also has 3/4 as many cylinders so each cylinder must make up the difference which requires it to be even beefier. The smaller engine is designed to run at a lower RPM range so in order to make the same power it has to make even more torque to get the same power. More torque= components must be even beefier to hold up.
What's this all add up to? Many have pointed out in the past that the Cummins has a beefier bottom end which it does. Above are a few reasons why.
It's just two slightly different approaches to get the same end result being the same power output. Doesn't make either one right or wrong.:;
And the V8s have a minimum of 44 CID over the I6 to put out those power figures. :;http://www.big3diesel.com/73comparison.html
Compares all 3 and it's funny but all three make their power in the exact same rpm ranges.
And the V8s have a minimum of 44 CID over the I6 to put out those power figures. :;
:haha: you want the one truck with the main problems that everyone bitches about
I can't wait to hear why the quieter, lack of fuel pump problems and cheaper to mod 12 valve is so terrible in comparison to a 24 valve..... And it seems you can't read, none of us have stated that we are brand loyal.. :looser:
And if you knew Fords so well, you'd know that the majority of the issues were in the early years of the 6ohno. It is no surprise that your 05 does just fine, most do
Here's some food for thought, a comparison between the two.......
Two engines with the same power output. One is smaller than the other- cubic inches. The smaller engine has a higher compression ratio and more turbo boost which is harder on components so they must be beefier. The larger engine can have a lower compression ratio and less boost to make the same power so the components don't need to be as beefy. Now take into account that the smaller engine also has 3/4 as many cylinders so each cylinder must make up the difference which requires it to be even beefier. The smaller engine is designed to run at a lower RPM range so in order to make the same power it has to make even more torque to get the same power. More torque= components must be even beefier to hold up.
What's this all add up to? Many have pointed out in the past that the Cummins has a beefier bottom end which it does. Above are a few reasons why.
It's just two slightly different approaches to get the same end result being the same power output. Doesn't make either one right or wrong.:;
Why is it not fair? Comparison is the whole reason for this thread..That's not really a fair comparison because it's a given that one will have to work harder than the other to achieve the same power. That is why I was trying to keep size differences to a minimum when I posted the bore and stroke figures.
Did you read the post above?And the V8s have a minimum of 44 CID over the I6 to put out those power figures. :;
Oh and Jeff, for the straight pipe comment :flipoff::flipoff::flipoff:
Yes really. If you want to start another thread we can talk about this too...."Horsepower is the measure of work, torque is bullshit" REALLY?
If the Toy had the same RPM range then it would tow as well but we all know it has a much more limited power band. Again start your own thread if you wish.Well how bout this, we'll put my 300hp turbo toyota 4cylinder in your tow rig. It makes the same HP as your PS right? Should work fine, RIGHT? .