messix
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from what i had heard on the news the dad had sucumed hypothermia. my guess would be be that dad gave up what he had to his son to keep warm enough to survive.
Evans Creek=missing dad=flipped truck
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dirtygoat
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Ian said it looked like he may have froze to death... The boys core temp was 74-75* when found... Doctors said he didn't have much time left and was lucky that he was found so fast...
The dad may have made it it they would have stayed in the truck for shelter even with it flipped over...
CHOP SHOP
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sounds like darwin was at evans this week.
messix
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they were not found in the truck???:eeek:
bad choice if they didn't stay in the truck for shelter.
Jay Luke
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I hope the powers that be can see it from this perspective. I agree with you 100%
crash2
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Regardless if the guy was alone, not being smart, the FS caused this or anything of that nature--the end result is its just ANOTHER black eye on our sport/hobby that can be used against us wether its the greenies or our very own government.....
Sucks from any prospective....
Sucks from any prospective....
I am really not concerned about incidents like this giving us a "black eye" as I am about issues like mudding and such where people are going out and doing intentional damage and running off trail and such. Deaths happen every day in the hiking and skiing and climbing world and theres no threat to close it down. I just dont see it as much of a threat although we almost lost all of our access to DNR lands a few years back due to a lawsuit from a idiot on a motorbike :eeek: (beverly dunes)
crash2
-Oh no I picked a side-
Negative is negaitve.... I don't care what it is...
agreed. anything can be spun :booo:
I just got back from being up there all day. It is a 2002(?) extended cab diesel, automatic, f-250 4x4 mostly stock.
At the top of the upper 311 it is real obvious where the logging road stops and the trail begins. There are HUGE boulders, he hit the first one and ripped his chrome nerf bar off. About 150 yards down the trail there is another chrome nerf bar on the ground. The truck rolled onto the passenger side 250 yards from the road. The engine is siezed and the stering colum is messed up.
Yesterday it took 5 or 6 hours for a towing company to get it back on its wheels. Today another towing company spent 3 hours on it while I was there and moved it about 30-40 feet up the hill. It has started to snow and the wind is really blowing.
It appears that neither passengers were hurt in the tip-over but the father died from exposure to the cold and the son was about an hour away from the same fate. They both left the truck and took shelter by a stump under some trees.
While I was looking at the truck I got a text message, which is weird because I don't get reception at Evans except for the exact spot where the truck rolled.
Pics coming....................
At the top of the upper 311 it is real obvious where the logging road stops and the trail begins. There are HUGE boulders, he hit the first one and ripped his chrome nerf bar off. About 150 yards down the trail there is another chrome nerf bar on the ground. The truck rolled onto the passenger side 250 yards from the road. The engine is siezed and the stering colum is messed up.
Yesterday it took 5 or 6 hours for a towing company to get it back on its wheels. Today another towing company spent 3 hours on it while I was there and moved it about 30-40 feet up the hill. It has started to snow and the wind is really blowing.
It appears that neither passengers were hurt in the tip-over but the father died from exposure to the cold and the son was about an hour away from the same fate. They both left the truck and took shelter by a stump under some trees.
While I was looking at the truck I got a text message, which is weird because I don't get reception at Evans except for the exact spot where the truck rolled.
Pics coming....................
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TreeClimber
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This is very sad.
However this is not a four-wheeling fatality. This is a poor weather fatality. Going out into a cold, wet, damp environment while unprepared or underprepared (whether alone or in a group) is stoopid. You read storys about people stranded (in the desert or blizzard) every winter and every summer. Most of the time, they die. Most of the time, a little common sense and some preventative planning would have saved the day. I absolutely cannot fathom going out in November, especially into the mountains without packing cold weather wear.
However this is not a four-wheeling fatality. This is a poor weather fatality. Going out into a cold, wet, damp environment while unprepared or underprepared (whether alone or in a group) is stoopid. You read storys about people stranded (in the desert or blizzard) every winter and every summer. Most of the time, they die. Most of the time, a little common sense and some preventative planning would have saved the day. I absolutely cannot fathom going out in November, especially into the mountains without packing cold weather wear.
Exactly. I know people that have been stuck in the snow at Evans and walked miles down the road to the nearest house for help.
This is the truck 250 yards from the top of the trail, pointed down hill:
The stump to the left is where I think they were sitting when found
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Here is the top of the trail, where the road ends and the trail starts (black hole to the right). He hit the first boulder and broke the nerf bar off. I was scraping on the boulders and getting really off camber in my wheeling rig, I dont know what the guy was thinking driving his stock Super Duty down it
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boardbysled
Tree Nerd.
Any beer cans in the rig?
I believe the LEOs took them for evidence.
ain'tstuckjustresting
RIP Mister 12/5/12
I read in a comment on the News Tribune site that the guy had a serious illness and was very weak. This might explain why they didn't try to hike out and why the Dad passed away and the son didn't. :booo:
WTF was he even doing up there?:eeek:
WTF was he even doing up there?:eeek:
CrustyJeep
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Sad for the kid. Looks like the dad begged and got what he asked for. :shaking:
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I just got off the phone with a friend that has been helping in the recovery of the truck. As of 6:00 tonight they were down to the last 150ft of the trail going back up 311. He said it has been snowing all day on them, about 6" on the ground. He said that they should have it to the top and on the wrecker in another hour or so. The hole time we were talking he was standing right next to the truck, he said he has had good cell service on the trail all day... Its sad that things like this happen.
Symon623
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Outside of the "illness" it seems as if he was on a mission of some sort...... leaving parts along the trail and still going...... Just seems he was trying to cause damage. Whether to himself, the truck or ??
Damnyankee
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well, any time i ever needl to make a call from evans, i go to the top of 311B.. you can always get cell service there, expecially if your with verison.
seriously. even with my lousy ATT i can make calls (company issued phone, family has verison)
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the guy whitetrashfab is talking about has nextel, we have always had spotty service, enought to call out, i have called people from half way up 197.
Dunejunkie
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Update to the story...
Got this of komotv.com
PUYALLUP, Wash. -- A woman who nearly lost her 4-year-old son in a tragedy that took the life of her husband says the man was a "super hero."
John Layton of Puyallup was killed and his son, Timothy, was injured after crashing their truck in the Cascade foothills Monday night.
"My son confirmed that my husband sacrificed his own life to save my son by protecting him until he himself died from natural causes," said Timothy's mother who released an exclusive statement to KOMO News on Wednesday night.
The boy, who "very near death from hypothermia" when he was found, believed his father, who'd died, had gone to sleep, the mother said.
The statement appears in its entirety below:
"Our family appreciate the public's prayers and sincere concerns. Our 4-year old son survived a very near death experience.
"There has been speculation regarding the text message and why my husband and child were not found earlier. I was not aware of my husband's location. I did not know they were missing until I came home that night. My husband called me earlier to tell me he would be home by 4:30pm Monday night. He has never gone 4x4ing alone. Upon arrival at home that night, I called my husband's cell phone repeatedly. Within 45 minutes, at 8:00pm, I called 911. The 911 operator told me she would file a missing persons' report that night. Deputy Oleole came to our house and told me, "there is nothing we can do at this time. There are other emergencies. Call back at 7:00 in the morning." By the time the deputy arrived at 10:00pm, the power was already out at our house. A very large tree had also fallen down on our property and caused significant damage.
"At our home, no more calls could be made in or out the duration of the power outage. Around 10:00pm the same night, my husband's friend received a text-to-voicemail message. My husband saved our son's life as he critically identified his location, that the vehicle was on it's side, that he needed help. The friend did try to text my husband back to suggest he call a mutual friend who could help him. There was no cell signal in that area. However, the friend's power was out as well; he could not reach me to verify whether help was on it's way.
"Promptly at 7:00am on Tuesday, I called the Sheriff's office again. I then called the friend and finally found out about the text message. I called the Sheriff right back to report the whereabouts of my husband and son. The Sheriff immediately coordinated a Search and Rescue team.
"The friend and I arrived at the location, Evan's Creek ORV park, by 9:00am to start the search.
"A heroic and quick-thinking Forest Service Officer found the bodies and rescued my son. Neither sustained injuries from the crashes. The Forest Service Officer stated that my husband repeatedly tried to drive to safety. The trail had deteriorated from the rain. At this time, I am uncertain if the rescue team had been able to tow the vehicle from the trail. My son confirmed that my husband sacrificed his own life to save my son by protecting him until he himself died from natural causes. A blessing: my son expressed feeling safe with his father. He believed at that time that "daddy fell asleep," which may have helped him survive with minimal trauma.
"My son received the most appropriate and life-sustaining care from the medics. My son was very near death from hypothermia. The doctors remarked that my son's full recovery was indeed extraordinarily speedy. Within hours, my son was awake, talking, even walking, and in good spirits. My son was released from the hospital Wednesday afternoon. He's a fighter!
"My husband was a "super hero," according to my son and everyone involved!
Got this of komotv.com
PUYALLUP, Wash. -- A woman who nearly lost her 4-year-old son in a tragedy that took the life of her husband says the man was a "super hero."
John Layton of Puyallup was killed and his son, Timothy, was injured after crashing their truck in the Cascade foothills Monday night.
"My son confirmed that my husband sacrificed his own life to save my son by protecting him until he himself died from natural causes," said Timothy's mother who released an exclusive statement to KOMO News on Wednesday night.
The boy, who "very near death from hypothermia" when he was found, believed his father, who'd died, had gone to sleep, the mother said.
The statement appears in its entirety below:
"Our family appreciate the public's prayers and sincere concerns. Our 4-year old son survived a very near death experience.
"There has been speculation regarding the text message and why my husband and child were not found earlier. I was not aware of my husband's location. I did not know they were missing until I came home that night. My husband called me earlier to tell me he would be home by 4:30pm Monday night. He has never gone 4x4ing alone. Upon arrival at home that night, I called my husband's cell phone repeatedly. Within 45 minutes, at 8:00pm, I called 911. The 911 operator told me she would file a missing persons' report that night. Deputy Oleole came to our house and told me, "there is nothing we can do at this time. There are other emergencies. Call back at 7:00 in the morning." By the time the deputy arrived at 10:00pm, the power was already out at our house. A very large tree had also fallen down on our property and caused significant damage.
"At our home, no more calls could be made in or out the duration of the power outage. Around 10:00pm the same night, my husband's friend received a text-to-voicemail message. My husband saved our son's life as he critically identified his location, that the vehicle was on it's side, that he needed help. The friend did try to text my husband back to suggest he call a mutual friend who could help him. There was no cell signal in that area. However, the friend's power was out as well; he could not reach me to verify whether help was on it's way.
"Promptly at 7:00am on Tuesday, I called the Sheriff's office again. I then called the friend and finally found out about the text message. I called the Sheriff right back to report the whereabouts of my husband and son. The Sheriff immediately coordinated a Search and Rescue team.
"The friend and I arrived at the location, Evan's Creek ORV park, by 9:00am to start the search.
"A heroic and quick-thinking Forest Service Officer found the bodies and rescued my son. Neither sustained injuries from the crashes. The Forest Service Officer stated that my husband repeatedly tried to drive to safety. The trail had deteriorated from the rain. At this time, I am uncertain if the rescue team had been able to tow the vehicle from the trail. My son confirmed that my husband sacrificed his own life to save my son by protecting him until he himself died from natural causes. A blessing: my son expressed feeling safe with his father. He believed at that time that "daddy fell asleep," which may have helped him survive with minimal trauma.
"My son received the most appropriate and life-sustaining care from the medics. My son was very near death from hypothermia. The doctors remarked that my son's full recovery was indeed extraordinarily speedy. Within hours, my son was awake, talking, even walking, and in good spirits. My son was released from the hospital Wednesday afternoon. He's a fighter!
"My husband was a "super hero," according to my son and everyone involved!
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