French Tickler buggy

[Bebop]

Yep, I think @RustyC had a nice thread going here at some point.

This dash let's me do more stuff than just display data, it also is an external datalogger, has GPS speed, adds 10 programmable I/Os to the ECU via CANBus, let's you use virtual switches and it doesn't require any external wiring, which is nice.

Getting the tablet mwthod to look nice or seal properly will be tough IMO.

I also bought this dash on black friday which made it more reasonable.

I'm definitely not @mcutler but this is what I envision :

Now to make it happen with my skill set is going to be harder :rolf:

 

[Zjman]

Yep, I think @RustyC had a nice thread going here at some point.

This dash let's me do more stuff than just display data, it also is an external datalogger, has GPS speed, adds 10 programmable I/Os to the ECU via CANBus, let's you use virtual switches and it doesn't require any external wiring, which is nice.

Getting the tablet mwthod to look nice or seal properly will be tough IMO.

I also bought this dash on black friday which made it more reasonable.

I'm definitely not @mcutler but this is what I envision :

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Now to make it happen with my skill set is going to be harder :rolf:

I was hoping for the price that the Holley dash done a lot more than the handheld. I’m cheap so this will be my way of looking cool lol. I plan on just doing a ram mount.
that dash looks killer man. And who you trying too fool? I talked to you at Harlan 2 years ago and you are the furthest thing from a dummy. You have built a killer buggy so ur skills are awesome thumb.gif

 

[Bebop]

Thanks. I have high hopes and aspirations so I need to remind myself to keep pushing forward.

I have been very lucky that I'm surrounded by some great people who didn't mind teaching me what they know and entertain bouncing ideas around with me.

I just bought a good laptop and will try to pick up Solidworks. I used to do a lot of CAD like 10 years ago when I was still in school but have completely stopped using it.

The industry completely moved towards virtual design / manufacturing and rightfully so. I want to be able to use the new technologies we have and this feels like a necessary step to me.

I'm also using the buggy to experiment with shock tuning and try to learn in that aspect as well.

 

[RustyC]

Bebop you are progressing along at a rate the rest of us dream of. We are just trying to keep up at this point.
My buggy dash is very simple. Samsung tablet, Torque Pro App, bluetooth OBD2 dongle in the diagnostic port. I can only monitor with mine, no outputs.
The Holley dash look very nice.
I use HP tuners and I am looking into a tablet big / fast enough to use it on. Still no virtual switches but would allow datalogging and tuning to be done.
I've got an LJ build starting and really want the factory gauges in place. Double Din Android radio in the dash fits nice but limited using Torque app. Still looking for options.

 

[Bebop]

Thanks again for the kind words.

At this point I'd need 48h days but I'd love to look into a Holley can converter. There is a real market for this stuff.

My first engineering internship was spent at Renault (french automotive manufacturer) in the engine testing department. I used to compare our prototype engines to the competition. Since they didn't share their data with us (duhhh...) I had to sniff the CAN network and reverse engineer their protocol to understand the data flows. But we had expensive ass tools that I don't have access to anymore.

Some people have replicated succesfully this with an Arduino and there is a market for these converters. The problem is that you have only 2 style of products on the market either a nice integrated solution that is very expensive (and rightfully so, they are banking on the time spent in R&D) or super cheap but completely DYI (plenty of info on Arduino forums).

For your LJ, I'm assuming you're going to use a GM engine.

The best system that I know of to do what you want is from RPMExtreme. They have a very nice GM to Chrysler CAN converter that also supports 6L80/90 applications. but it costs a pretty penny.

Or you could put an autometer dash plate with standard gauges which IMO, looks great.

Or Intellitronix makes a digital cluster that would take an OBD input from the GM ECU.

 

[FlatlandFSJ]

The virtual switch function is a cool one, not having any switches is a clean way of doing things. With your pdm set up it should stay super nice looking having minimal wiring

 

[Bebop]

That's the plan !

 

[RustyC]

Thanks again for the kind words.

For your LJ, I'm assuming you're going to use a GM engine.

Yes looking under trees for an engine now. Plan is 6.2 L9H, 6l80,Ford 205 with 32 spline input.
Everything but the engine in hand.
I've read / gather info that I can send GM sensor data to the Jeep PMC that feeds the dash. Then obviously E38 to run the GM stuff. I'll post whatever works out in a build thread.
Derail off....

 

[redneckengineered]

Or Intellitronix makes a digital cluster that would take an OBD input from the GM ECU.

AEM does as well. I highly recommend their CD7 screen. I'm blown away at all the aftermarket systems it can integrate with and they are always adding/updating the list.

 

[Bebop]

AEM does as well. I highly recommend their CD7 screen. I'm blown away at all the aftermarket systems it can integrate with and they are always adding/updating the list.

If I didn’t have a Holley ECU I’d have gone with that option. They are badass.

 

[Bebop]

Well, the screen mount happened this weekend.

Massive thanks to my buddy Donny who's the AL TIG master and handled all the welding on the unit.

Fit-up, blending and keeping everything looking good is hard as ****. The pictures look good but I'll just say it was a learning process haha Huuuuge respect to those who make it look easy, like the WOD guys or Matt Cutler. BTW, Matt is cool as **** and gave plenty of pointers and feedback to help. Thanks a million Matt !

The 2 "knobs" on the side are waterproof USB ports that are wired as pass through, one goes to the screen to retreive the datalog files and the other one goes to the ECU for laptop hook up / tuning.

 

[RustyC]

Well done! I dig it. USB bulkheads :love:

 

[Bebop]

Thanks !

 

[jeeptj99]

you couldnt have washed the damn mud off for him first? Looks good, wish you could have rode with us this weekend.

 

[Bebop]

you couldnt have washed the damn mud off for him first? Looks good, wish you could have rode with us this weekend.

It added some much needed grit for the first sanding phase.
Wish I did too, but I'm at the point that I will not wheel under rain if I can help it, I just don't enjoy it.

 

[ridered3]

New dash looks great! Glad you got to stop by for a bit (fix my fan wiring) and hang out with the cool kids in KY.

 

[Bebop]

I'm glad I got that done. I hated leaving you with a blown up wiring.

 

[ridered3]

I'm glad I got that done. I hated leaving you with a blown up wiring.

I'm glad to know I have Trophy Truck parts on the Juggy!

 

[jeeptj99]

It added some much needed grit for the first sanding phase.
Wish I did too, but I'm at the point that I will not wheel under rain if I can help it, I just don't enjoy it.

It didnt rain friday it was beautiful. Bill and I rode until about 3ish am. Saturday got a little rough towards the end of the day.

 

[Bebop]

Took the buggy out for a ride at Windrock with friends. Killed it all weekend.
We rode all the hard **** and had a major blast.

My favorite moments were climbing up the big hill on the side of trail 2. I need more juice but 5.3 pinned to the floor FTW !!!!



Also climbed the left exit of Cadillac Hill (Trail39). Videos of course don't do it justice, but that ledge is 6ft tall and undercut.

This buggy just plain works and I'll put it up against any trail riding tube chassis out there.

We helped a random stranger and his son that go stranded with their bike.
Nothing a few hands and a buggy could fix. Drove them back 1h or so to their trailer at the entrance and made some new friends.

Wrapped the day by making some crepes for my homies and hanging out around the fire.

This weekend was dope, thanks to @tall boy, @WildDog, @rafter b2000, and many more cool people

 

[ridered3]

Looks like a good time all around and plenty of brap time!

 

[redneckengineered]

Awesome vids but you need to educate your buddies on the benefits of filming in landscape :p

I need to get back to Windrock, I haven't been in probably 15 years.

 

[Bebop]

Awesome vids but you need to educate your buddies on the benefits of filming in landscape :p

I need to get back to Windrock, I haven't been in probably 15 years.

Haha, I'm already glad they videoed my ass doing stupid ****. Since I'm not running around taking pics for everyone anymore, the amount of media that is produced per outing has went down for sure.

Nobody knows of a hot chick that can take pics halfway decent ? I got a pass seat open. :cool:

There's some cool **** at Windrock for sure. I want to come back to give a shot at Atomic ridge but I've got a couple of things to upgrade on the buggy first.

 

[The Luke]

Is that the same ledge that the Matt's did on the Cheap Jeep Challenge series(somewhere around the 22 min mark)? Buggy is looking great man! Rear steer done yet?

 

[Bebop]

Nope completely different one.

But I went up the same ledge and it's a bad one, mega props for good driving from the guys. Bleepin Jeep and BK are legit wheel men. I did go up the right line on this obstacle. It's harder but I have a buggy.

The ledge I made up on video is all the way up Cadillac Hill (trail 39). It's an optional exit. And I don't know many people that went up it.




0 progress on the rear steer. It's expensive and time consuming and I'm having a blast wheeling it as is.

 

[ToyotaTom]

Buggy looks awesome.

 

[Bebop]

Thanks dude !

I swear if I ever put panels on it I will make it look like the Perrier sponsored car that Jean Girard was driving in that movie.

funny thing it that I love Perrier and drink it quite frequently lol

 

[ridered3]

You should reach out to Fancy French Water to see if they'll sponsor you.

 

[Bebop]

They'll send me a cease and desist letter and expect me to waive the white flag.

 

[ridered3]

They'll send me a cease and desist letter and expect me to waive the white flag.

Haha!