4link kit

81yota1 · Oct 23, 2006

I was eyeballing offroad solutions 4 link kit and I have a few questions. It gives me a price with heims and johnny joints and im wondering the pros and cons between them or if their are any?

Bunk1 · Oct 23, 2006

81yota said:
heims and johnny joints and im wondering the pros and cons between them or if their are any?

This has never been gone over before. Should be a interesting thread right here.:flipoff:

TheMasterbater · Oct 23, 2006

Just weld the links directly to the axle and crossmember. That'll be ur best bet

:stirpot:

sixty-nine · Oct 23, 2006

you can be like bunk and over kill the fawk out of it. the pro to it is that it wont break. the con is that its way more costly

81yota1 · Oct 24, 2006

ok thanks for the help.

Bunk1 · Oct 24, 2006

sick_boy said:
you can be like bunk and over kill the fawk out of it. the pro to it is that it wont break. the con is that its way more costly

How would you know??:flipoff: :flipoff: :flipoff:

Jonny joints are bigger and tougher to package and have a small thru bolt that needs to be modded bigger. Huge heims are kewl. 1/2 wall lowers and yer a happy camper.

crash2 · Oct 24, 2006

81yota said:
I was eyeballing offroad solutions 4 link kit and I have a few questions. It gives me a price with heims and johnny joints and im wondering the pros and cons between them or if their are any?

I am not a big fan of that kit myself.

Hiems take up less room but are a little louder where johnny joints are the opposite. PLus you usually get a little side to side movement out of a johnny joint...

Not Jobless · Oct 24, 2006

Bunk said:
Jonny joints are bigger and tougher to package and have a small thru bolt that needs to be modded bigger.

The bolt don't need to be modded bigger

Who told you that ****?

My little JJ bolts have held tough for about 6+ years now...but I'm just running a grocery getter back & fourth the coffee stand

Not Jobless · Oct 24, 2006

crash said:
PLus you usually get a little side to side movement out of a johnny joint...

I don't know what POS brand you are reffering too but I can tell you just like I've told everyone my Johnny's have no slop...especially side to side.

There is only one down side to runny JJ's....and it's becasue of the extra real estate they take up when finding a place to mount them.

stompinjab1 · Oct 24, 2006

I've used Johnnys on two rigs, one is DD/ wheeler Toy on 35s. They have been in for about 3 years he loves them 0 problems. The other is a Jeep with a 60 & 14 bolt, Clune, 205 and 44s. He also loves them. The only one to suffer was me putting them together an like jobless said mounting space. My .02 they work great if you have the room

crash2 · Oct 24, 2006

Jobless said:
I don't know what POS brand you are reffering too but I can tell you just like I've told everyone my Johnny's have no slop...especially side to side.

There is only one down side to runny JJ's....and it's becasue of the extra real estate they take up when finding a place to mount them.

You have alot more tri-anglation in your uppers

causing what

Thats right and since there is a bit of polly inside them what does that cause when you have "very" little tri-angulation on your uppers...

GaryTJ · Oct 24, 2006

My Johnny Joints are about 6 years old and are holding up fine. And, No the bolts do not have to be "modded" they are fine.

My ft suspension is a three link and all the rotational force of the front axle is held by one 7/16th's bolt and it is fine. Plenty strong enough to bust axles on a regular basis.

Jaydog · Oct 24, 2006

crash said:
Hiems take up less room but are a little louder

The hiems on my TJ are really loud, everyone that rides with me asks "What's all that clunking noise?" I just tell them that is what flex sounds like. :clappy:

archer1965 · Oct 24, 2006

Jaydog said:
everyone that rides with me asks "What's all that clunking noise?" I just tell them that is what jeeps sound like . :clappy:

fixed it for ya :flipoff:

Jaydog · Oct 24, 2006

archer1965 said:
fixed it for ya :flipoff:

Thanks.

archer1965 · Oct 24, 2006

Jaydog said:
Thanks.

anytime.........sarcasm is one of the services I offer :;

darius · Oct 24, 2006

crash said:
You have alot more tri-anglation in your uppers causing what Thats right and since there is a bit of polly inside them what does that cause when you have "very" little tri-angulation on your uppers...

I'm not sure but I don't think he has triangulated uppers

crash2 · Oct 24, 2006

darius said:
I'm not sure but I don't think he has triangulated uppers

More than I do --let me re-phrase that--He has more than I have on my uppers which helps dispurse side loads through all 8 joints rather than 4 like mine. I have seen my identical setup with johnny joints (good ones) and due to the little amount of polly that is in them they do cause "more" side to side shift of the axle than my hiems have :;

Bunk1 · Oct 25, 2006

I have hard of plenty of 9/16ths bolts(thru bolt on Jonny joints) breaking. Many from briejer. While thats a extreme example(sorry robin) i think it should be a big consideration in building a rig. I have not hogged mine out to 5/8ths yet, but if i ever break a 9/16ths bolt i will document the whole scene and let ya'll decide.

Not Jobless · Oct 25, 2006

crash said:
You have alot more tri-anglation in your uppers causing what Thats right and since there is a bit of polly inside them what does that cause when you have "very" little tri-angulation on your uppers...

Hey there Einstien...I have them on both ends of the fronts with ZERO trinagulation as well

Oh...and they have no slop either

:flipoff: