the_white_shadow
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90's throw back....Manche build
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I'm not even in the market and I can't wait for this to come up for sale.This post is a copy from nc4x4, gives a little detail of my plans. But yes, I will be keeping besides. Btw, I'm on the five year plan of building and selling my personal rides. But I'd be happy to entertain building something for someone...
The quote is from shawn, proprietor of NC4x4
[quote uid=2 name="shawn" post=1435916]If you had asked me this morning where the motor and front axle were going to end up, I would have said that the axle was 2-3" further forward and the motor was 4-6" closer to the axle tube. Tough to say from the pictures how it's all going to come together, but are you going to have enough room in the footwell if the tire is stuffed and turned? It all looks pretty snug.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the footwell will get somewhat deleted. The combo of the 39" tire and wanting to keep it centered in the fenderwell, along with uptravel has shoehorned me to push the motor back. I wish I could push it back 4 more inches. The crank pulley was 18" behind the axle in the buggy. It's all part of this stupid challenge I put on myself. It would be easier to build a buggy, or if jeep had made an extended cab manche...But I've built a buggy, and enjoyed it. And now, everyone has a buggy....or is building one. But, how many people have a Comanche that performs like a buggy?... but the occupants stay dry and warm[emoji14]
....plus I can take one of my boys for a ride to get an ice cream cone.
One factor that will keep the tire from invading too much is the deep backspacing of the wheels, 4.75. This in turn brings the scrub radius down, allowing the outermost corners of the tire to make a smaller circle through the cycle. I will not sacrifice uptravel. I will drop tire size to 37 before I lose uptravel. I also will not delete the headlights or narrow the hood. And, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to dovetail or chop the bedsides, tailgate undecided...but I will have good approach and departure angles. Needs to look like a Comanche for me to feel I've done what I set out to do.
I have 16" 2.5 c/o for the front, and will soon be ordering my 14's for the rear along with 2.5" travel bumps front and 4" travel on the rear. Shooting for 18-20 wheel travel on rear axle with trailing arms with motion ratio, and a 1:1 ratio up front. If I can get the geometry where I need it, most likely won't use a sway bar, but the tube will be there in case I add it later.
Great question Shawn.
Matt
The quote is from shawn, proprietor of NC4x4
[quote uid=2 name="shawn" post=1435916]If you had asked me this morning where the motor and front axle were going to end up, I would have said that the axle was 2-3" further forward and the motor was 4-6" closer to the axle tube. Tough to say from the pictures how it's all going to come together, but are you going to have enough room in the footwell if the tire is stuffed and turned? It all looks pretty snug.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure the footwell will get somewhat deleted. The combo of the 39" tire and wanting to keep it centered in the fenderwell, along with uptravel has shoehorned me to push the motor back. I wish I could push it back 4 more inches. The crank pulley was 18" behind the axle in the buggy. It's all part of this stupid challenge I put on myself. It would be easier to build a buggy, or if jeep had made an extended cab manche...But I've built a buggy, and enjoyed it. And now, everyone has a buggy....or is building one. But, how many people have a Comanche that performs like a buggy?... but the occupants stay dry and warm[emoji14]
....plus I can take one of my boys for a ride to get an ice cream cone.
One factor that will keep the tire from invading too much is the deep backspacing of the wheels, 4.75. This in turn brings the scrub radius down, allowing the outermost corners of the tire to make a smaller circle through the cycle. I will not sacrifice uptravel. I will drop tire size to 37 before I lose uptravel. I also will not delete the headlights or narrow the hood. And, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to dovetail or chop the bedsides, tailgate undecided...but I will have good approach and departure angles. Needs to look like a Comanche for me to feel I've done what I set out to do.
I have 16" 2.5 c/o for the front, and will soon be ordering my 14's for the rear along with 2.5" travel bumps front and 4" travel on the rear. Shooting for 18-20 wheel travel on rear axle with trailing arms with motion ratio, and a 1:1 ratio up front. If I can get the geometry where I need it, most likely won't use a sway bar, but the tube will be there in case I add it later.
Great question Shawn.
Matt
44BRAND
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I was thinking the same thing when I saw that. Like the idea of keeping the heat out of the cab as much as possible also, this is going to be an awesome MOCHIINNE!! as Johnny Cash would say.the_white_shadow said:
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Well, I've finally got all my geometry mapped out. I've been eyeballing this subframe from Goatbuilt for months. And after doing all the geo, it looks like his subframe is going to work on the money. It is soon to be on the way from Wisconsin....along with skids, engine cross member, atlas support, fuel cell with the ring to use a factory gm internal fuel pump([emoji41] ) and a few other trinkets. Drew, the owner, has some ingenious solutions to building a buggy. Also very easy to speak with, and excited that I have build threads to show my work.
The geometry is nearly identical, front and rear, with adjustment. For my current layout at 115"wb, 18-19" belly, in the center adj hole-
72% antisquat/dive, with -2°,-4° understeer rear/front respectively. I'm pretty stoked that all this will work with the Goatbuilt unit.
Matt
Well, I've finally got all my geometry mapped out. I've been eyeballing this subframe from Goatbuilt for months. And after doing all the geo, it looks like his subframe is going to work on the money. It is soon to be on the way from Wisconsin....along with skids, engine cross member, atlas support, fuel cell with the ring to use a factory gm internal fuel pump([emoji41] ) and a few other trinkets. Drew, the owner, has some ingenious solutions to building a buggy. Also very easy to speak with, and excited that I have build threads to show my work.
The geometry is nearly identical, front and rear, with adjustment. For my current layout at 115"wb, 18-19" belly, in the center adj hole-
72% antisquat/dive, with -2°,-4° understeer rear/front respectively. I'm pretty stoked that all this will work with the Goatbuilt unit.
Matt
TBItoy
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Very cool to see a platform solution in use with a bodied rig.
Very cool to see a platform solution in use with a bodied rig.
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bjeep
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Did you get the axle fixed?
If so. How?
drool
If so. How?
drool
Yes. I first pulled the inner seal, and cut the tube. Then I wedged the cut to get the alignment, at which time all the angles fell into place. I then sleeved the tube with 3"x.250, and welded on both ends. Redid the outside link tab, and replated. The steering truss will also support this solution. All is good now.
I'm looking forward to putting this platform into this project. I really like the plate work versus the round tube as well.
Matt
I'm looking forward to putting this platform into this project. I really like the plate work versus the round tube as well.
Matt
Jduck
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Awesome build! Looking forward to watching this come together.
Got a great little pallet of stuff yesterday. Will have progress pics next week....finally. Appreciate all the interest and patience.
Thanks Drew @<b><a href="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/member.php?u=9988" target="_blank">Goat</a></b>built for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
Matt
Thanks Drew @<b><a href="http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/member.php?u=9988" target="_blank">Goat</a></b>built for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
Matt
Got a great little pallet of stuff yesterday. Will have progress pics next week....finally. Appreciate all the interest and patience.
Thanks Drew @Goatbuilt for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
Thanks Drew @Goatbuilt for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
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Got a great little pallet of stuff yesterday. Will have progress pics next week....finally. Appreciate all the interest and patience.
Thanks Drew at Goatbuilt for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
Matt
Got a great little pallet of stuff yesterday. Will have progress pics next week....finally. Appreciate all the interest and patience.
Thanks Drew at Goatbuilt for the fast shipping and great product and excellent packaging.
Matt
Matt
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Wow...lots of welding today.
First I must say, I am truly impressed with this sub-frame! I can only imagine the time Drew spent at the drawing board for this unit. The most impressive design cue to me as a welder, is that he has engineered it so that there will be full penetration on ALL welds. Which tells me he's not just a smart guy with 3d modeling, but a builder as well! I can truly appreciate the work he put into designing this and I must say he should charge double for the sub-frame alone!
Pic heavy..
Matt
Matt
Wow...lots of welding today.
First I must say, I am truly impressed with this sub-frame! I can only imagine the time Drew spent at the drawing board for this unit. The most impressive design cue to me as a welder, is that he has engineered it so that there will be full penetration on ALL welds. Which tells me he's not just a smart guy with 3d modeling, but a builder as well! I can truly appreciate the work he put into designing this and I must say he should charge double for the sub-frame alone!
Pic heavy..
Matt
Matt
