Let me start by appologizing for posting on your site,however this is the only site out of 6 that has no positive feedback.anyway,lame maybe to someone who doesnt enjoy a day of socializing with others who enjoy offroading and jeeps. Its actually alot of fun , and if your someone who doesnt know everything you just might learn something, i found out about different trails,rides, ways to build etc. OH! and alot of people bring their kids ( with their battery powered jeeps) to play at the park. I had checked this site out a couple of times looking for stuff for sale for my dd jeep and our 2 offroad jeeps and our sons chevy swb truck so i guess thats where i got the idea this site had something to do with jeeps. And as for no alcohol, fortunatly my lifes not so bad, that i cant imagine going to a social get together for 1day without alcohol. So please accept my appology and for thinking of inviting "hardline" forum visitors/members to a friendly get together, i will be sure and not try it again and let others know so they wont make the same mistake. signed MRS. HC75