Hydro Steering Q's

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

Alrighty. I think it might be time for me to upgrade my steering a little.

I have a '82 Yota w/ standard upgrades to it... Longs, gears, lockers, dual cases, 4" All Pro springs, TG Hi Steer..

Looking to go hydro. Not wanting to waste my money on a hydro-assist setup either. What all is needed to piece together a setup? I know I can go to PSC and get their Toy setup but I'd rather piece one together over the next year.

Few questions I've thought about:

What size ram? What size lock to lock orbital are you running? Where are you mounting the orbital? Single or double-ended ram?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Charlie

Pat · Dec 24, 2009

Read the bible :awesomework:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/PR-Hydro_Steering/index.html

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

Nice. I've searched pirate many times in the Toy section. Never saw that.

Bunk1 · Dec 24, 2009

I believe your stuck with a 6 inch ram on a toy axle.

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

Bunk said:
I believe your stuck with a 6 inch ram on a toy axle.

Kinda what I thought. Wanted to know what everyone here used.

Thanks!

CHOP SHOP · Dec 24, 2009

charliesnyder said:
Kinda what I thought. Wanted to know what everyone here used.

Thanks!

If you dont have 6 inch ram on a toyota thern its wrong or got a custom arm.

If you have a toy axle and off the shelf Hysteer then a 6 is tits.

If looking for displacement numbers, they are listed on Trail Gears site and give the displacement and turns lock to lock.

Bunk1 · Dec 24, 2009

Chop spurred this on: Dont buy any of trail gears hydro parts. MMMMK??

Americans for americans.

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
If you dont have 6 inch ram on a toyota thern its wrong or got a custom arm.

If you have a toy axle and off the shelf Hysteer then a 6 is tits.

If looking for displacement numbers, they are listed on Trail Gears site and give the displacement and turns lock to lock.

Ok, awesome. I already have TG Hysteer and will have the Six Shooter Knuckles and arms by then.

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

Bunk said:
Chop spurred this on: Dont buy any of trail gears hydro parts. MMMMK??

Americans for americans.

Haha!

I'll try not to, I already have a bunch of their stuff tho!

Anyone have the link or the P/N for the PSC kit for Toys? I've seen it floating around before.

CHOP SHOP · Dec 24, 2009

Bunk said:
Chop spurred this on: Dont buy any of trail gears hydro parts. MMMMK??

Americans for americans.

Look ol grumpy bunky, I said to go there and rob numbers to use for finding thier own parts.

I did put full hydro from TG on a truck for 600 shipped to my door. Orbital, column (toyota spline), ram kit with lines and mounts, orbital mount, all for under 600.
Just food for thought.

I showed the customer a psc system for over a grand and the TG for under 600, HE chose the TG.

I get paid to mount either.

charliesnyder · Dec 24, 2009

What would be better? Using a dual ended or single?

CHOP SHOP · Dec 24, 2009

charliesnyder said:
What would be better? Using a dual ended or single?

doesnt matter really on a toyota. The level of performance gained by using a dual over a single is pretty much voided by the fact its on a leaf toyota.

The single is cheaper and better protected and simpler to mount and service.

the dual is pimp, and it needs a more complex mount, has two exposed ends to worry about damaging, has the best/equal steering performance. Its more complex with lots of parts and is expensive.

Bunk1 · Dec 24, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
Look ol grumpy bunky, I said to go there and rob numbers to use for finding thier own parts.

I did put full hydro from TG on a truck for 600 shipped to my door. Orbital, column (toyota spline), ram kit with lines and mounts, orbital mount, all for under 600.
Just food for thought.

I showed the customer a psc system for over a grand and the TG for under 600, HE chose the TG.

I get paid to mount either.

Thank you for supporting their economy while ours is in the sh!thouse. Thats my point.

(wheres the pimp clarkW smoking smilie??)

Bunk1 · Dec 24, 2009

Check it

http://nw-wheelers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37038

ChrisStewart · Dec 24, 2009

when I had my toyota, I used a PSC 8 inch single ended ram. (Collared to 6) If they know your application, they will be able to collar it to only have 6 inches of travel. FWIW I would roll with a double ended ram, I didn't like how mine reacted when end was returning.

Clark · Dec 24, 2009

:smokey: it's not mine, i stole it:smokey:

Bunk said:
Thank you for supporting their economy while ours is in the sh!thouse. Thats my point. (wheres the pimp clarkW smoking smilie??)

charliesnyder · Dec 25, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
doesnt matter really on a toyota. The level of performance gained by using a dual over a single is pretty much voided by the fact its on a leaf toyota.

The single is cheaper and better protected and simpler to mount and service.

the dual is pimp, and it needs a more complex mount, has two exposed ends to worry about damaging, has the best/equal steering performance. Its more complex with lots of parts and is expensive.

Will the fact that I'm planning on linking my truck in the near future change how the setup should be?

ChrisStewart · Dec 25, 2009

charliesnyder said:
Will the fact that I'm planning on linking my truck in the near future change how the setup should be?

Your set up will pretty much stay the same, if you are running toy axles. Any more then 6 inch travel and you will over steer the axle and rip your high steer arms off. The big thing with hydro is it will turn even if it's bound up. Been there done that. :awesomework:

charliesnyder · Dec 25, 2009

Haha ok. Before I deployed I broke 5 steering studs off:fawkdancesmiley:.. I'm going to replace with the six shooter knuckles and arms and ARP studs.. Hope that will fix that problem.