school me...12 or 24 valve?

Bill · Nov 9, 2010

I just went through this...had a 12v, wont buy a Dodge with an auto, bought an 03 6-speed and love it

Oil can · Nov 9, 2010

Bill said:
I just went through this...had a 12v, wont buy a Dodge with an auto, bought an 03 6-speed and love it

Got the :bling: 6 speed..........nice!

That would be awsome...but saddly, probly over my budget...:booo:

Bill · Nov 9, 2010

99 was the first year where the 6-speed was offered...they wanted sick money for them so just went for it and got the 03, best build of the 5.9

Lucky Jeff · Nov 9, 2010

6 speed isn't for everyone.. I'd take the 5 speed over a 6 any day, unless it's a 05+ G56..

The leak is between the vacuum and power steering pump. A couple bolts, the three hoses, oil line underneath as well as a support brace going to the block and she comes right out. Separate the two halves and replace the seals that come in the kit.

Oil can · Nov 9, 2010

boardbysled said:
If ya get a 2wd one I gots a 3 speed brownie that you could drop in it.:corn:

Wait, I got it, six speed here I come.....:redneck:

Bill · Nov 9, 2010

I pulled doubles with my 12v...always wanted just one more gear.....going through 5 of 6 gears to cruise 30-35 is not for everyone

Oil can · Nov 9, 2010

Lucky Jeff said:
6 speed isn't for everyone.. I'd take the 5 speed over a 6 any day, unless it's a 05+ G56..

The leak is between the vacuum and power steering pump. A couple bolts, the three hoses, oil line underneath as well as a support brace going to the block and she comes right out. Separate the two halves and replace the seals that come in the kit.

Sweet. Not to sound redundant but what seal is it or what kit is it?:corn:

Lucky Jeff · Nov 9, 2010

Oil can said:
Sweet. Not to sound redundant but what seal is it or what kit is it?:corn:

just run down to Cummins NW and ask for the powersteering/vacuum pump seal kit for the dodge, it's a common thing for people to buy. But you don't have the truck yet, so I wouldn't worry much about it. You will want to run down there when you buy one for filters anyways.

Oil can · Nov 9, 2010

Thanks for the info!!!!!:beer:

Lucky Jeff · Nov 9, 2010

SLIPPY said:
05+ #6 gear doesn't shatter?

:corn:

shatter? sure, with a ton of hp.. Don't forget that Lenny ran mid 900 rwhp with his G56 without issue.... This guy said he is towing a wheeler, I doubt he will be pushing any high hp limits. All 3 manuals have their short falls.. Try getting a rebuild quote on a NV5600, you'll be crying before you hang up the phone. Not to mention they are the absolute worst manual transmission to drive. Have you ever even driven a truck with a NV4500, 5600 or G56? I've had a decent amount of time with all 3... Empty and towing

skinny_pedal · Nov 9, 2010

Im thinkning we need to put a 12v vs. 24v sticky thread up. These are getting old

Lucky Jeff · Nov 9, 2010

skinny_pedal said:
Im thinkning we need to put a 12v vs. 24v sticky thread up. These are getting old

A list of pluses and minuses for all.

Binder · Nov 10, 2010

Lucky Jeff said:
it takes a bit more to get power out of the 7.3 though. Either you spend money on injectors, a turbo, studs and tuning on a 7.3. Or you spend money on an EGR delete, head studs, HPOP and a tune on the 6.0. That's just to get into the low 500 range, and at that point, the 6.0 doesn't really have it's reliability gremlins. With the 7.3, it's either all or nothing, if you're going to get injectors and a turbo to make 500 hp, you might as well get injectors and a turbo to make 650.

It just depends on how much power you want. Remember most of us here just want to tow a trailer. You don't need anywhere near 500HP to tow a trailer.

zukkev · Nov 10, 2010

Cleaned...let's keep this on the 12 vs 24 topic please!

You can also get lost :redneck: with tons of info on www.thedieselgarage.com
Say hi to strokinit!:haha::hi:

Oil can · Nov 10, 2010

zukkev said:
Cleaned...let's keep this on the 12 vs 24 topic please!
You can also get lost :redneck: with tons of info on www.thedieselgarage.com
Say hi to strokinit!:haha::hi:

Thanks for the heads up on that web site....:awesomework:

SASDakota · Nov 10, 2010

Lucky Jeff said:
12 valve is less maintenance, usually get better mileage, easy and cheap to mod for decent enough power for most people to be happy for a tow rig without hurting mileage. Early 98's were the only 12 valves with the new interior and optional quad doors. It's best to stick with the 96-98 trucks, but 94 and 95 are still decent.

98s had 12v and the nicer body upgrades. 98.5 is a 24v so you are VERY limited to what 98s will have a 12v

And I am not sure the 12v does better mileage than a 24v.

Oil can · Nov 10, 2010

SASDakota said:
98s had 12v and the nicer body upgrades. 98.5 is a 24v so you are VERY limited to what 98s will have a 12v

And I am not sure the 12v does better mileage than a 24v.

What type of milage on a 12v towing 15k gross, on average?:corn: