Independent suspension ideas

Im not a fan of the Subaru diff for how small the ring gear is and that they are so long. Top picture is the Subaru and the lower is the toyota

Subaru front diff is part of the transmission. The Explorer-Mountaineer setup seems to be the easiest to find cheap.

Yeah but that **** goes boom routinely on normally driven pavement pounding stock junk, although it's not like you are going to put a hundred thousand miles on it, so it might work ok.

This is kinda what I'm looking for. Something I can build a simple chassis and bolt it to. I just need to find a front to match.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171251194963?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

grcthird said:

Yeah but that **** goes boom routinely on normally driven pavement pounding stock junk, although it's not like you are going to put a hundred thousand miles on it, so it might work ok.

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what are you saying goes boom routinely? My dad rebuilds diffs at a ford dealer never heard of either ford diffs going boom? They whine and roar but never seen a broken one?

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al1tonyota said:

what are you saying goes boom routinely? My dad rebuilds diffs at a ford dealer never heard of either ford diffs going boom? They whine and roar but never seen a broken one?

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Subaru diffs go boom.



You can get gears for Toyota its down to 5.29.

1st gen Tacoma ifs is a high pinion version of the older 7.5" diff.

rednecklights said:

Sounds like Alabama would be a good place for you!

BugEJ lives about 2 hrs away , we could find you a nice spot in between us


Jon Piper

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As soon as they quit building pipelines in PA I'll be back home in TN within 48 hours!

al1tonyota said:

what are you saying goes boom routinely? My dad rebuilds diffs at a ford dealer never heard of either ford diffs going boom? They whine and roar but never seen a broken one?

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Bad choice of words, I tend to say stuff is blown up when it's really just broke, needs rebuilding ect. We see bearing failure in them and the occasional one that cracks the housing because it has so much (owner neglect) wear the pinion get shoved out the bottom.

Man subarus hold together well. I see WRX and STIs pushin well into 500s and running low 11s, high 10s at the track then drive home. Weekly. I think they are a pretty tough little set up

why not cut down a nine inch ford and use it?

drycreekjeep said:

why not cut down a nine inch ford and use it?

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My idea was to find a 4x4 vehicle with independent front and rear suspension so the geometry is already figured out for me. I found a 2004 Eddie Bauer Explorer with a bad transmission for $850. It's only 3" wider than a RZR 1000. Dana 30 or 35 front and 8.8 rear, both independent with disc brakes. Sawzall out the suspension, sell the 4.0 and scrap the rest. Nearly free. If it's geared too high, gears are available.
If the deal works out, I'll go that route.
Thanks RustyC for the idea.

I think getting the geometry right on this stuff is going to be an asskicker

Hell yeah!

great idea!!!! I say give it a try.

I have these 2 differentials if anyone's is ineterested, I just saved these in hopes of doing a small ifs buggy but probably never will.One is out of a 2007 tundra with a 9" ring gear and 4.30 ratio. The other is a 90's toyota pickup with 4.10 ratio.

I'm going to mill down the long side on both of them and machine for a seal so these can be ran as center mounts

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That buggy pictured can't weigh much if any more than 1000 pounds with a driver in it. Theres no need for 1 ton sized gears, a tiny little geo tracker ifs set up would hold up just fine and not be overly heavy.

How about a TTB30 centersection out of a ford ranger?

I have 2 nissan 240sx diffs laying in my shop for the same thing. I had a guy working for me last year that was into the whole drift world. He gave me two one had limited slip the other open. They look very similar to the Subaru unit but don't have the long pinion snout. They're between the size of a d30 and d44 diff. Have a flange on either side that accepts a CV and are only like 10" wide face to face. Plus they have a cast iron housing and nice finned aluminum cover. The half shafts that come in the cars are two different lengths, a long side and a longer side but the diff is ambidextrous so you can choose your width by running 2 longs or 2 shorts. Parts are readily available and they're a dime a dozen. The rear uprights are even pretty light and simple so they can be modified easily to use as fronts. They use decent disc brakes and bearings. I think they'll work great.

So has anyone considered useing H1 portals for the knuckles? Adam do you know what spline, and what gears are avalible for the expedition diff?? H1 portals are 1.92-1 so i would need 2.64 third member diffs to be 4.56