Ellensburg rock-crawling event uncertain

Big Rich1 · Apr 15, 2008

Harvester of Sorrow said:
It is up to the Klein's to deliver.

1. They are the businessmen here in the equation trying to bring a product to market...a new market at that.

2. It is up to the the business men to sell the product to the customers. In this case of the new market, the customers are the local officials. We are their repeat customers...so we don't really count in the sale.

3. The money lost is only hurtful to the business people selling the product. We are not out because we do not have to spend the gas, time, and resources to enjoy their product.

4. No sales plan, no product to sell, no worries.

If there is no local event then, there is no local event.

B.S.

I think your thinking is a little short sighted....

We are only looking to do one event in the PNW each year, the regionals would do another 1-2 and some trials M/C events each year, club challenges and practice sessions would be a way for an enterprising individual to amke some $$$

Nascar does not build the tracks, neither will W.E.ROCK

We love our PNW friends, but if we are not wanted, we will go where we are...

Big

Brian H · Apr 15, 2008

Big Rich said:
B.S.

I think your thinking is a little short sighted....

We are only looking to do one event in the PNW each year, the regionals would do another 1-2 and some trials M/C events each year, club challenges and practice sessions would be a way for an enterprising individual to amke some $$$

Nascar does not build the tracks, neither will W.E.ROCK

We love our PNW friends, but if we are not wanted, we will go where we are...

Big

Rich that isnt it at all. We want Werock to be in washington. I have been trying to find a place to put the comp for a year. I also have been talking with your boy on what you guys are looking for. I now have a big pile of fencing in my yard that was supposed to be used on the man made coarse that wont be used now. I dont know why it is so hard to get land for the comp here in washington but I do think that there are enough people that suport it to put our heads together and make this work out. Ill keep trying.:awesomework:

boxboy · Apr 15, 2008

Are you looking for a new Area? What about a place north of Spokane up in Pend Oreille County?

boxboy · Apr 15, 2008

boxboy said:
Are you looking for a new Area? What about a place north of Spokane up in Pend Oreille County?

I believe I can get 56 acres on private land with about 1500 feet of elevation change with rocks and trees

mark · Apr 16, 2008

boxboy said:
Are you looking for a new Area? What about a place north of Spokane up in Pend Oreille County?

IMO, too far away.

Darius:

How much was the Shot-Crete?? Is the Snohomish place you mentioned still viable?
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crawlrjj · Apr 16, 2008

how about vantage ? it use to be there for cal-rock ... I know goldendale is small but it worked..we like to see we-rock here the fans and drivers but its like anything els the city / county / state / government likes to **** us all if its something that there not into ....good luck and i will still fly out to see ya guys at we-rock ,,,later

darius · Apr 16, 2008

mark said:
IMO, too far away.

Darius:

How much was the Shot-Crete?? Is the Snohomish place you mentioned still viable?

I'm not sure of the cost per yard, or however they charge, and I'm not sure how much of it would be needed, these are all question's for the rich's. Though I do remember talking with Jack (property manager at snohomish location) He said for a good course with enough terrain for fresh stuff for a few year's it was about 50k. I'm pretty sure he got to a point and said **** it and quit trying to offer/help.

Big Rich1 · Apr 16, 2008

boxboy said:
I believe I can get 56 acres on private land with about 1500 feet of elevation change with rocks and trees

Big Rich1 · Apr 16, 2008

darius said:
I'm not sure of the cost per yard, or however they charge, and I'm not sure how much of it would be needed, these are all question's for the rich's. Though I do remember talking with Jack (property manager at snohomish location) He said for a good course with enough terrain for fresh stuff for a few year's it was about 50k. I'm pretty sure he got to a point and said **** it and quit trying to offer/help.

If you went totally out of pocket, without trying to get discounts or sponsorship opp's yes 50K is about what it would take. But there are ways to get it down in price.

Vantage is out for a number of reasons.

Goldendale just won't work anymore.

I am open to look at just about anything

Big

crash2 · Apr 16, 2008

Boy if there could be an event on the west side of the mountains----you guys could make an ABOSOLUTE KILLING!

JPFREAK · Apr 16, 2008

Big Rich said:
If you went totally out of pocket, without trying to get discounts or sponsorship opp's yes 50K is about what it would take. But there are ways to get it down in price.

Vantage is out for a number of reasons.

Goldendale just won't work anymore.

I am open to look at just about anything

Big

Are you still against holding an event at Straddelline ORV?

Big Rich1 · Apr 16, 2008

JPFREAK said:
Are you still against holding an event at Straddelline ORV?

No I am not against holding an event there.

no excuses · Apr 16, 2008

How about half way between Portland and Seattle, 15 miles of I-5, owner has 400 acres, has a motorcross track and holds events, building a dragstrip and has held 4x4 events there. it would all have to be man made as there is not much elevation change and he has a bunch of equipment also. Let me know and I will try to get in contact with him..

Harvester of Sorrow · Apr 16, 2008

Rich...

I wasn't trying to be negative towards you...re-reading my post it does come across that way...

I was trying to break it down to business terms for the simpletons...running an event like this is like running a business.

I for one hope you find a local that is re-newable and can sustain a repeat event. It would be great for everyone.

Corey Y · Apr 16, 2008

No Excuses, are you talking about Happs property in Ethel?

KRAWLER · Apr 16, 2008

Big Rich said:
No I am not against holding an event there.

Rich,
last year I helped you set up a meeting with them and you guys turned it down. This would be an ideal location, I spoke with them a few weeks ago and they are still interested in building courses. I think this would be the place, it has, grandstands, concession stands, race tower, ample parking, Camping & RV Hookups, etc...
This place is pretty much centrally located between Portland & Seattle.

no excuses · Apr 16, 2008

Crazy Daze said:
No Excuses, are you talking about Happs property in Ethel?

No, Riverdale Raceway in Castle Rock.

http://www.riverdaleraceway.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=Front.Home

Talked to Big Rich and and sent him the info. Also talked to the property owner and he sounded interested so who knows what will happen.

Bunk1 · Apr 17, 2008

I heard from a little birdie that things are being planned out in a little town east of the mountains. I figure i should let him spill the beans*

briejer · Apr 17, 2008

Bunk said:
I heard from a little birdie that things are being planned out in a little town east of the mountains. I figure i should let him spill the beans*

Bunk....... can I buy a vowel?

crash2 · Apr 17, 2008

Bunk said:
I heard from a little birdie that things are being planned out in a little town east of the mountains. I figure i should let him spill the beans*

Until its said--its just another BS rumor