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Well thats ironic....I was the top design engineer the last couple weeks and one of my major customers approached me today about a job.

Ill be curious as to what come from the first place spot. The boss started this a couple weeks ago to make us feel appreciated. Number 1 spots every two weeks are supposed to get a $25 gift card of their choice. So far no one has received any and we are going on 2 months of this.
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Speaking of jobs, I'm in a world of **** right now. Left a fun job, a really fun job, because the market had taken a huge down turn in it (talked to another sales guy from there and his sales are down almost 41% from last year). Old boss comes to me says I'll pay you XXXX of money to manage this one customer and grow your own business, in 3 months you'll outrun the draw and be making XXXXXX of money. So I left and came to handle this customer and grow my business. What was failed to be mentioned to me was how the customer's account was already ****ed by someone trying to manage it that wasn't smart enough to do it. Took me about 4 months to get them halfway on the right track to being right. Fast forward 4 more months and they hire a super that is a complete ****. Everything I do is wrong, never good enough, **** I went out and laid trim myself to help in a tight spot with a closing and he finds the 1 bad joint I had to bitch about. He starts bitching to the high ups in his company, the high ups in mine that he's known for 20+ years. Well yesterday they pull me in and tell me they are taking the account away from me, reducing my pay, and expect me to be able to maintain the same level of sales. So now I'm ****ed because I'm still chasing all their stupid **** and trying to get more new business plus chase the ones I was already trying to chase. I don't want to look like a job hopper but it's apparently fixing to happen. **** pisses me off so damn bad.
 
jeeptj99 said:
Speaking of jobs, I€™m in a world of **** right now. Left a fun job, a really fun job, because the market had taken a huge down turn in it (talked to another sales guy from there and his sales are down almost 41% from last year). Old boss comes to me says I€™ll pay you XXXX of money to manage this one customer and grow your own business, in 3 months you€™ll outrun the draw and be making XXXXXX of money. So I left and came to handle this customer and grow my business. What was failed to be mentioned to me was how the customer€™s account was already ****ed by someone trying to manage it that wasn€™t smart enough to do it. Took me about 4 months to get them halfway on the right track to being right. Fast forward 4 more months and they hire a super that is a complete ****. Everything I do is wrong, never good enough, **** I went out and laid trim myself to help in a tight spot with a closing and he finds the 1 bad joint I had to bitch about. He starts bitching to the high ups in his company, the high ups in mine that he€™s known for 20+ years. Well yesterday they pull me in and tell me they are taking the account away from me, reducing my pay, and expect me to be able to maintain the same level of sales. So now I€™m ****ed because I€™m still chasing all their stupid **** and trying to get more new business plus chase the ones I was already trying to chase. I don€™t want to look like a job hopper but it€™s apparently fixing to happen. **** pisses me off so damn bad.
Iirc you work for 84 lumber right? I don't know what they pay but a guy who works at lowes pro desk, he deals with the contractors, told me he makes like 25 a hour, dunno about commission or anything but I thought that was good coin for little work involved


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I made a pretty big switch about 3 months ago. I was the production planner and inventory control specialist for a hospitality carpet company. I ordered all raw materials scheduled the production, analyzed efficiencies, and monitored the inventory. The pay was crap , benefits were meh, there was no chance for advancement, and anytime anything went wrong in production, I was the first person called and expected to have a reason and solution. I pretty much went home every night stressed about money or work.

Now I'm a Service Technician (primarily electrical controls) for an Asphalt plant manufacturer. Pay is great, benefits are great, I have the opportunity to advance within the company, and I love the work. So far the only downside is traveling for weeks at a time, with two young kids at home. It was a hard decision to make, but one my fiancé and I both felt it would be better for the family as a whole in the long run.
 
Zjman said:
Iirc you work for 84 lumber right? I don't know what they pay but a guy who works at lowes pro desk, he deals with the contractors, told me he makes like 25 a hour, dunno about commission or anything but I thought that was good coin for little work involved


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Yup, I was suprised how much some of the department heads (correct title?) make at Lowes. A guy I went to school with worked at our local lowes for a long time, apparently advancing quite a bit because I heard the other day they relocated him to one in TN to be the store manager, which if I recall correctly last time I was on the Googles, makes upwards of $90k-$100k.
 
Zjman said:
Iirc you work for 84 lumber right? I don't know what they pay but a guy who works at lowes pro desk, he deals with the contractors, told me he makes like 25 a hour, dunno about commission or anything but I thought that was good coin for little work involved


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Good memory yes I do work for 84.


TacomaJD said:
Yup, I was suprised how much some of the department heads (correct title?) make at Lowes. A guy I went to school with worked at our local lowes for a long time, apparently advancing quite a bit because I heard the other day they relocated him to one in TN to be the store manager, which if I recall correctly last time I was on the Googles, makes upwards of $90k-$100k.


I worked for lowes back in the day when I was in college making a giant $7.82 and hour. turned in my two weeks and the store manager pulled me in and told me that he made 117K BEFORE bonuses. It was right about the time the cameros came back out and he told me he went and paid cash for one with a bonus check. But they could match $9 a hour that I was going to be making at the other job.... pissed me off lol.
 
jeeptj99 said:
Good memory yes I do work for 84.



I worked for lowes back in the day when I was in college making a giant $7.82 and hour. turned in my two weeks and the store manager pulled me in and told me that he made 117K BEFORE bonuses. It was right about the time the cameros came back out and he told me he went and paid cash for one with a bonus check. But they could match $9 a hour that I was going to be making at the other job.... pissed me off lol.

You only get paid for what you know :flipoff1: Maybe go back and see what opportunities your local lowes has? Home Depot should be comparable as well.
 
A friend of mines girl friend is a dept head at Lowes and he told me she makes $23.50 an hour. Not sure how long she had to work there before she got moved up.
 
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Always heard they have good benefits too. Good for them though, they could stick that money back in their corporate pockets instead of paying ordinary people so good.

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TacomaJD said:
Always heard they have good benefits too. Good for them though, they could stick that money back in their corporate pockets instead of paying ordinary people so good.

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They don't pay their grunt workers **** and no overtime and actually work a lot of em part time so they don't have to give benefits


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My first REAL job was of all things....a car salesman. First ACTUAL job was a stock boy at Weigels. I had a few cash jobs before 20 years old(auto detail / shadetree audio installation, etc)

I was going to a Comm. College for Financial management, but it was just awful.....classes I HAD to take were stupid and not going towards anything other than bucket in my head labeled as USELESS KNOWLEDGE.

Worked as a Lot Attendant for the local Chevy dealership, and they flexed letting me goto school. I made VERY good friends with the HR and Payroll "ladies" and they somehow never questioned how I got a 40hr paycheck but left for 4hrs every Mon/Wed/Fri. ;)

One of those ladies took moved / left the job open. I was tired of washing cars in the cold and sweating in the summer. Thought a A/C'd desk job would be nice. So I then got moved in to Title Clerk with the ladies. ;)

FFWD 8 months.....lady that move away came BACK. She was of course a ho and while humpin' on my sweet young ass, she was also humpin the owner. Needless to say she got her job back and I was S.O.L. I was a liked guy, and they didn't wanna see me go so they moved me into car salesman role.

I told them...."I don't like people....I don't like stupid people". My car salesman mentor said, "That's great! All you hafta do is like MONEY!" I did OK....my confidence was low got built up month by month. Took home a 3,000 dollar month pay not long after and of course being young, my tunnel vision got the best of me and I quit the Comm. College gig. Not really the catalyst for not going anymore, I just hated it.

I started liking the idea of actually helping people. Don't get me wrong....shitbags with 40 cents to their name and a credit score of 450 got treated like they kicked my dog.

I found that I was having to hussle my ass to make that money. I was makin a few bucks on ALOT of cars. I wanted to make ALOTA bucks on a few cars.

Our family has been good friends with Acura dealer in Knoxville. I had a pimpy Acura Integra with a badass supercharger that I was taking in for service. Cam gears or some gay **** that would add like 3hp for 200$.....something retarded. I was wandering out the showroom / talking with the managers and owner and long story short.....they had the recipe for how I wanted to work. Sell few / make a lot.

Made the move there selling Acuras / Jags / Porsche / Infinity / Audi....

First month made 3 grand.....sold 6 cars. Chevy store I would sell 15 plus to make that.

Being young, havin' money, no bills, working a luxury job....LIVING AT HOME............I had it made.

FFWD a few bad months of 600-800 dollars, I start to get "questioned" on my abilities at work. I sold myself to them again but deep down I know I had gotten complacent and just didn't have any drive left. I stopped talking to customers....I actually turned away from some that eventually bought from another salesman. I just couldn't stand diapering these rich ****s that came in and demanded I kiss their ass. Lost focus on the money.....

FFWD a few more months and they tell me its best we part ways. I'm fired. Good guys, I couldn't disagree with anything they had to say.

So I'm ****ed...or so I think. It could be TONS worse I know(now). I have no bills. No kids. I just don't have a job. I suck off unemployment for 3 or so months. I think I rode Tellico on my dirtbike at least 3 times every week for 2 of those months. I'm thinking this is ****ing AWESOME!!!

After that....im bored. I'm broke. I want to buy stuff but I can't and I'm realizing I'm a deadbeat that lives at home getting fed by my parents and my mom lugging my dirty clothes around.

I take a job in Logistics at Honda in Loudon, TN. Not a car lot, just a warehouse of storage. I'm a grunt.....8$ an hour....driving this go kart looking thing around.....as menial as it can get. I begin to think it's kind of nice know you're going to get paid the same thing every week / month.

I don't like my job, but I show up, I do what I'm told. I contribute to other areas and generally make friends with the ones that have some work ethic, not the space taker uppers.

I move up to driving a forklift. I then move up to driving the BIG equipment. I then move in to the Tech Memo dept that deals with spreadsheets, drawings / general Q.C. . I'm starting to hafta use my brain power. I'm liking what I do. I'm getting paid more, it's easy work despite some typical warehouse heat / cold months.

A desk job opens up....Inventory Analyst. Here we go again, 'cept this time, no hot older cougar ladies to hump up on. I get the job. I REALLY like what I'm doing. Computer work, number crunching, problem resolution, directing people that were in my OLD jobs there....I come in clean and I leave clean and makin' more money.

I buy a house. Scariest $247 a month payment I've ever had. 850sq/ft shanti that I can see every room from my only piece of furniture....the couch.

I'm thinkin' this is it. This what I can do and make a decent living.

FFWD a couple years....they bring me in the office and tell that since I'm practically running the people on 3rd shift(while I was on a 3rd/1st shift overlap schedule), they're going to bump me up to a Supervisor. You don't make Supervisor in this company unless you were a Lead first. I never was, but I was friends with all the right people.

Huge jump in pay, but I'm on 3rd shift. Sucks at first, but I really don't like dealing with alota people so this is bitter sweet and I love it. I'm working less(physically) and making more money. Plan is working!

Ops Manager begins to coach me on Inventory Management. I'm given the spreadsheet / computer tools, sent to some classes on space utilization. It's geeky stuff but I like it.

I begin to be known as the "the fix it guy" at the warehouse. Cool being that guy, but can get shitty as everyone knows I know how to fix stuff / do it right / work smarter not harder. I'm beginning to be ASKED what/how we should do things instead of being told.

FFWD a year or so.....Honda buys an older warehouse just down the road. We're running out of storage at the first building and due to everything I've been doing previously, Honda can no longer point their finger and say we are not managing the space properly. All signs point to "WE'RE ****ING FULL".

Lots of buzz about who/what/when on this new building. I'm just thinking it's another place I can store ****,....GREAT! Mangers start bringing me over to new building regularly....moreso than other supervisors. Asking where racks should go, what size....drive aisles....power outlets....processes....work flow.....etc....

I suppose I was jus oblivious to this as I was the least Senior Supervisor there....short of maybe 2 that came on within the last few months.

We're walking through the new warehouse and the Op's Manager just flat out asked me if I wanted to run this building. In my most corporate professional tone I say HELL YEA!!!!

Damn....that's a ton of rambling! Felt good though! I find it kind of funny being in such a tight / rule bound corporate job that I NEVER put in a job application for ANY advancement I did until AFTER I was in the job for a few weeks.

Hindsight, I wish I would have pursued a Logistics career earlier. I like making stuff fit and being efficient. Many many lows through this job, but I'm beginning to see a lot of daylight and realizing it's not a loaded train coming at me.
 
Zjman said:
They don't pay their grunt workers **** and no overtime and actually work a lot of em part time so they don't have to give benefits


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Walmart is the same way ( Wife works there ) If you can put up with the BS and your work ethic is good..... They'll move up.
 
I'm always amazed with logistics nowadays. I remember in the old days is would take weeks to get ordered merchandise...Now a couple of days is the norm ( Even from overseas ) There's a whole lot logistics that goes into it to make it happen.
 
A few months ago, I actually went back to the Acura dealer. I was browsing on Instagram and saw an Ad for the Acura store, which is now Acura and VW I believe. I saw that one of the guys that fired me was still there and he was the main guy instead of an assistant.

I took a short ride back up there just to talk to him. He ACTUALLY remembered me. He said he remembered that day because it was like having to let go a family member but he had a job to do and it was business nothing personal. I just nodded and thanked him for giving me the boot in my ass that it deserved.

I told him I found myself implementing many of his styles of leadership....remaining calm, giving benefit of the doubt, giving respect....

He's a great guy, one of few people i'll remember forever in my working career. You're either a freakin' Rockstar or just another worker in my eyes. Not much of a middle ground. We went out for a quick bite to eat and he thanked me for coming up as he'd always remember me when some punk brough their loud ass rice mobile in to get worked on. LOL He was glad I had made something of myself.

I won't ever be rich, but If I can ride a few times a month, eat a few nice places a month....buy some stupid **** I really don't need.....then I'm good. I just mainly enjoy being an integral part of the wheel wherever I go, not just another rock in the tire.

I wish everyone the best luck in career / job choices. I consider myself very lucky. A few of my high school friends went on to be BIG BIG ballers(bank / financial institution presidents etc.) and some just ended up being 10$ an hour job hoppers.

In the end, go with your gut....don't burn bridges unless it was a wrong turn that got you there in the first place.

#canthidethefuckingmoney
 
ForMud said:
I'm always amazed with logistics nowadays. I remember in the old days is would take weeks to get ordered merchandise...Now a couple of days is the norm ( Even from overseas ) There's a whole lot logistics that goes into it to make it happen.

We're also international, so while the US can go through slumps in the economy....the export side keeps paying the bills. I was always hesitant to work boat or seasonal type things.

They seem to be doing better though, at least the ones around us. About 5 or so years ago during the winter we'd have a lot of laid off Yamaha / Sea Ray / Malibu people wanting jobs.

There is huge company called Protomet moving in to the other side of our building. Supposed to be hiring 200+ higher end paying jobbers. It'll be a 24/7 facility.....4-10's and a weekend crew. While I have been with my company for 17 years.....I have been making good friends with our new neighbor during his building renovation process. ;)

Tryin' to get that Hardline Money.....gotta make my first 'mill first though! ;)
 
Damn tony for the official inspirational speaker of hardline. Lol


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I'm just pretty grateful I had good parents that showed me good work ethic and to give a damn. My parents HATED the fact I was a car salesman.....they never told anyone what I did short of "he works for some automotive company".

They could've kicked me outa the house, but they had faith I'd get my **** in line.

I'll never forget livin' at home and buyin' a 4,000 supercharger for that Integra. Hell, I was even parkin' it in their garage. He asked me how much it costs and I told him......he bout blew up. He asked how much HP it supposed to add and I told him 60hp and he said for "4000 ****in' dollars that thing better fly to the ****in moon AND BACK!!!". Good ol Dad...
 
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