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naches/manastash memorial day???

crash said:
Thats called a good working relationship between volunteers and the land managers--something we DO NEED and thank you for the hard work doing what you do...

But until the users get the idea/educated we will continue to battle ourselfs for what lands we have left.
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What percentage/kind of users do you think are the ones causing the damage?
 
nate8887 said:
Maybe Nancy could use part of that grant she was speaking of to pay for the material/consumables and work something out with clark?
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When I talked to her about the "Alder Hole", we walked in and I showed her what could be done... She asked what I needed and had it delivered in a few days... A decent size group went in a week later and built the by-pass... It's holding up very well and users seem to understand what the options are for them and abide by that...

There's still more work to be done at that section, but we are waiting for nicer weather... It was snowing on us up there two weeks ago...

There are some other sections that are already in the works... I'm hoping to get to in the near future...

Clark donated that sign, I don't see a problem with paying for him to do others for certain areas... There's money available threw a number of clubs/orgs... This was a big part of creating The Public Trail Fund...

There's also users that donate their equipment to help the cause... Casey(skinny pedal) has done this several times...
 
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dirtygoat said:
When I talked to her about the "Alder Hole", we walked in and I showed her what could be done... She asked what I needed and had it delivered in a few days... A decent size group went in a week later and built the by-pass... It's holding up very well and users seem to understand what the options are for them and abide by that...

There's still more work to be done at that section, but we are waiting for nicer weather... It was snowing on us up there two weeks ago...

There are some other sections that are already in the works... I'm hoping to get to in the near future...

Clark donated that sign, I don't see a problem with paying for him to do others for certain areas... There's money available threw a number of clubs/orgs... This was a big part of creating "The Public Trail Fund"...

There's also users that donate their equipment the help the cause... Casey(skinny pedal) has done this several times...
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Well let me know when you want to get up there and look at some other projects.
 
dirtygoat said:
That's why we build water bars and silt ponds...

If we could get a 1/4 of the people that use the systems to help at work parties, most of this wouldn't be an issue... If we(wheelers), would take a preventive approach toward our trails, we would resolve a lot of the issues that create these so called "problems"...

Going in and building solid by-passes along with run off capture is something we should be doing before there is a thread of closure...

That's just my opinion...
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Agreed :awesomework:
 
So anyone going to Naches for the chainsaw training?
I had to do this in MN also....I will be there on the 22nd
 
ORDER NO. 733_
TEMPORARY AREA MOTORIZED TRAVEL CLOSURE
NATIONAL FOREST SYSTEM TRAILS AND ROADS
OKANOGAN-WENATCHEE NATIONAL FOREST
Pursuant to 36 CFR 261.50(a) and (b), the following acts are prohibited on National Forest System (NFS) trails Naches Ranger District of the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest as described below and listed in Exhibit A and shown on the attached map from April 15, 2011 until June 15, 2011, unless posted open. The purpose of this order is to prevent erosion, protect soils, vegetation and water quality.
1. Using any type of vehicle prohibited by order.
For the purpose of this order, it is prohibited to use any motorized vehicle on any National Forest System trail or route on the Naches Ranger District listed in Exhibit A [36 CFR 261.55 (b)]
Pursuant to Title 36 CFR 261.50(e), the following persons are exempt from this order:
1. Persons with a permit specifically authorizing the otherwise prohibited act or omission.
2. Any Federal, State or local officer, or member of an organized rescue or firefighting force in the performance of an official duty.
Done at Wenatchee, Washington, this 14th day of
/s/ Clinton D. Kyhl for __
REBECCA LOCKETT HEATH
Forest Supervisor
Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest
Violations of these prohibitions are punishable by a fine of not more than $5,000 for an individual or $10,000 for an organization, or imprisonment for not more than 6 months or both. (16 USC 551 and 18 USC 3559 and 3571).
EXHIBIT A
Trail #
Trail Name
Trail Miles
Beginning Terminus
Ending Terminus
325
D BETHEL RIDGE
6.00
RD #1500-324
RD #1400
601
D HOG BACK
2.90
RD 1012550
RD 1012540
602
D SLEEPY LOOP
1.70
1203000
1202000
608
D LOUIE WAY
7.40
RD #1202
LOUIE GAP
609
D PICKLE PRAIRIE
3.60
RD #1202
RD #1201
610
D SHORTY
0.17
1202000
1202608
611
D NORTH PICKLE PRAIRIE
2.00
RD #1202
TR #609
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
0.60
Rd 1020615
State/Prvt Bdy
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
2.60
Rd 1020615
State/Prvt Bdy
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
6.00
Rd 1020615
State Bdy
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
8.20
Rd 1020615
State Bdy
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
9.80
Rd 1020615
State Bdy
613
D DIVIDE RIDGE
12.10
Rd 1020615
State Bdy
615
D DIVIDE RIDGE WEST
8.00
RD #1020
RD #1070
617
D LILY POND
1.00
TR #676
RD #1708-590
619
D NARROW NECK GAP
2.90
RD #1070-578
TR #615
620
D RATTLESNAKE
2.90
RD #1500-625
RATTLESNAKE CR TR# 1114
621
D BLUE SLIDE
5.20
RD 1000, GREY CREEK C.G.
TR #615
622
0.14
Trail #621 Blue Slide
Dead End
636
D DONNIKER PASS
1.20
TR #621
TR #637
637
D SHORT AND DIRTY
5.70
RD #1020
RD #1010-531
638
D ROCKY SLIDE
1.30
TR #615
TR #640
639
D SPENCER CREEK
1.80
RD #1000
TR #637
640
D MEMORIAL MEADOWS
3.70
RD #1050-583, MINNIE MDW C.G.
TR #615
641
D LEANING TREE
3.70
RD #1206
TR #661
642
D BUTCHER KNIFE
3.80
TR #615
TR #640
644
D CJR'S HIDEOUT
3.20
1701530
694
651
D BUCKHORN GAP
2.70
RD #1206-546
TR #641
652
D BETHEL OAK
4.40
1401222
1401220
654
COPPER CITY
2.85
1808 Deep Creek Road
Miners Ridge
661
D HUMPHREY BUTTE
6.20
RD #1010-538
TR #637
663
D JUMPOFF BYPASS
0.70
1302000
Trail 1127
665
D SWEET HOME
1.70
TR #696
TR #697
670
D SUMMIT SPRINGS TIE
1.50
RD 1701
694
671
D BETHEL - LYNN LK. TIE
1.80
RD 1400235
325 ( RD 1500325)
672
D BETHEL
1.20
1400652
1500325
EXHIBIT A
675
D CATTLE CAMP
2.00
RD 1702
RD 1701530
676
D KANER FLAT
7.40
RD #1903
TR #688
677
D SPRUCE CREEK TRAIL
1.77
RD 1010538
637 (RD 1010637)
680
D LITTLE RATTLESNAKE
3.50
RD #1501
RD #1500 BETHEL RIDGE
684
D NACHES PASS
7.20
RD 1900
Government Meadows
685
D WOODPECKER BY-PASS
0.70
1708000
1708686
686
D MILK CREEK
3.00
RD #1708
TR #694
694
D SUMMIT
5.40
307
Forest Bdy/ Barber Springs RD
695
D MID SUMMIT
2.20
RD 1701
694
696
D MUD SPRINGS 1613696
8.40
RD #1601
RD #1600 CLOVER SPRINGS
697
D CLOVER SPRINGS
3.40
RD #1605
TR #696
698
0.47
694
698A
699
D SECTION 3 OVERLOOK
2.00
1204000
Sec 4
1111
RUSSELL RIDGE
9.00
RD #1306-370
RD #1382
1126
LOUIE
3.40
RD #1201
LOUIE GAP
1127
DIVIDE RIDGE
0.67
LOUIE GAP
JUMPOFF
1127
DIVIDE RIDGE
2.30
LOUIE GAP
JUMPOFF
1134
TEN DAY TRAIL
1.20
Conrad Meadows TR #1120
Cirque Lake
1145
LONG LAKE
1.90
LONG LAKE
LOST LAKE
608 A
LONG LAKE TIE
0.40
608
608
609 A
D PICKLE PRAIRE LOOP
2.20
609
609
640 A
D MEM. MDW-BLUE SLIDE TIE
1.50
640
621
642 A
1.55
642
640 in section 5.
651 A
D BUCKHORN GAP LOOP
0.90
651
651
677 A
D SPRUCE TIE
0.28
677
RD 1010
694 A
D SUMMIT A
1.20
694
695
698 A
0.26
694
694
941
PYRAMID PEAK
14.48
RD 1900
PYRAMID PEAK
943
BEAR CREEK
7.00
RD #1911
TR #1388 MANASTASH RIDGE
943 A
CUB CREEK
2.50
TR #943
TR #1388 MANASTASH RIDGE
945
MIDDLE FORK
10.00
RD 1913
RD 1902
946
SOUTH FORK
5.60
RD #1902
RD #1906
947
MOUNT CLIFTY
5.60
RD #1905
MANASTASH RIDGE
948
QUARTZ MOUNTAIN
7.50
RD 1904-740
TR 1388
949
QUARTZ CREEK
7.00
RD 1903
TR 688
950
OLD KANER
0.50
676
308
952
WEST QUARTZ CR LOOP
13.20
RD #1902
LOOP TRAIL
955
INDIAN FLAT
1.50
SR 410 INDIAN FLAT
TRAIL 952
961
LITTLE BALD
11.00
RD 1704
SADDLE CAMP RD 1600-231
EXHIBIT A
963
SAND CREEK
10.50
SAND CREEK
CROW CREEK C.G.
963 A
SAND CREEK CUTOFF
1.30
SAND CREEK C.G.
TR #963
963 B
YELLOW JACKET
3.82
SAND CREEK C.G.
RD 1906
964
LOST CREEK
3.50
RD 1704-311
RD 1706
965
MILK CREEK
3.50
RD 1707
TR 686 (RD 1708)
966
GOLD CREEK
2.90
RD 1703
TR 694
EXHIBIT A
 
Thank God, I was worried someone was in danger of having fun. The fish can swim with happy gills tonight. Al Gore and the Sierra Club can rest easy, disaster averted. Now if we could just close those pesky trails the rest of the summer we'd be on to something.
 
Its great to be funny but the truth is the users brought this on themselves. Some of us have been telling you for years this was coming but you would'nt listen. Instead you just continued to build bigger and badder machines so you could "really tear it up" now we have trails that are torn up and impassable to the "average" user when wet and spiderwebs of trails where there should only be one. The users failed to police themselves so the Government is going to do it for us. This sucks and it sucks for all of us. All because of a minority of users that just cant accept the few rules to follow to keep OUR trails open. I dont know what its going to take to open peoples eyes to the reality of the way things are but maybe this will help. Its just a shame that it came to this:booo:

By "you" I use it as a general term.
 

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