Six Shooters vs 5th stud

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Flat-Bed_3rd_Gen said:
yeah i have no welding skills or tools but my buddy does. i just cant really spend the money on the 6 shooters and if the 5th stud is just as good then i will go that route and get arps
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i never said buy a six shooter, i don't think anyone in here has said buy a six shooter.....

the welding crack was just a joke don't take it serious
 
Whoever said that there is no such thing as cast steel is smoking crack. Cast steel is just a steel that has been cast....The difference between cast iron and cast steel is that they are both iron alloys but cast iron has a greater carbon content which gives it a lower melting temperature and easier to cast. The "cast" is just the process not the material though "cast iron" does refer to a specific group of alloys with high carbon content......More carbon= more brittle as a rule so cast steel is less brittle and generally stronger for the things we use it for. Cast steel is a iron alloy with a very low carbon content. In other words it's just steel that has been cast.....Forging or machining process has nothing to do with any of this............
The high steer arm issue on your Toy is nearly the same issue of other high steer setups..44..60...The difference is on the Toy the surface area of the arm to knuckle contact is very small on a Toy. By design these all rely on friction for strength. The studs aren't supposed to see any sheer stress but when the nuts come loose the friction is gone and sheer is all that's left. The sheer strength of the studs isn't enough and will soon fail. Add enough studs though and they have much better sheer strength.....On the small surface Toy there isn't enough friction even with the studs to proper torque so it's doomed form the start if you stress it much over stock application........
 
Binder said:
Whoever said that there is no such thing as cast steel is smoking crack. Cast steel is just a steel that has been cast....The difference between cast iron and cast steel is that they are both iron alloys but cast iron has a greater carbon content which gives it a lower melting temperature and easier to cast. The "cast" is just the process not the material though "cast iron" does refer to a specific group of alloys with high carbon content......More carbon= more brittle as a rule so cast steel is less brittle and generally stronger for the things we use it for. Cast steel is a iron alloy with a very low carbon content. In other words it's just steel that has been cast.....Forging or machining process has nothing to do with any of this............
The high steer arm issue on your Toy is nearly the same issue of other high steer setups..44..60...The difference is on the Toy the surface area of the arm to knuckle contact is very small on a Toy. By design these all rely on friction for strength. The studs aren't supposed to see any sheer stress but when the nuts come loose the friction is gone and sheer is all that's left. The sheer strength of the studs isn't enough and will soon fail. Add enough studs though and they have much better sheer strength.....On the small surface Toy there isn't enough friction even with the studs to proper torque so it's doomed form the start if you stress it much over stock application........
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hey its not after 7 so we should take this serious :haha: :fawkdancesmiley:
 
Binder said:
I did post it in another thread and deleted right away if that's what you mean?
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Yeah.... I had quoted you what a "What??", then when I posted it, your original post was deleted. So I wasn't sure if I was seeing things when I saw it in this thread.
 
trxguy said:
i never said buy a six shooter, i don't think anyone in here has said buy a six shooter.....

the welding crack was just a joke don't take it serious
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i originally posed the question of getting 5th studs or 6 shooters

I wasn't taking the welding comment serious I was just responding to Chop Shops post and explaining why I am going to go with a 5th stud
 
So incunclusion screw toyota buy Dana :fawkdancesmiley::awesomework:
 
so kids, the point of the drill.....DON'T be a "f-ing" toolshed, and do some little stuff called maint., and chances are you won't get stranded! if you're really concearned....carry spare ****!:awesomework:
 
I looked at all this the other day and i took a knuckle down to the place that heat treats our 300m u-joints and test metal for us. Pacific Metallurgical They said it was a type of casting about 48 rock well hardness. It is weldable if preheated. I have welded them before with good luck.
 
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longfield said:
I looked at all this the other day and i took a knuckle down to the place that heat treats our 300m u-joints and test metal for us. Pacific Metallurgical They said it was a type of cast steel forging about 48 rock well hardness. It is welded able if preheated. I have welded them before with good luck.
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Exatcly :awesomework:
 
longfield said:
I looked at all this the other day and i took a knuckle down to the place that heat treats our 300m u-joints and test metal for us. Pacific Metallurgical They said it was a type of cast steel forging about 48 rock well hardness. It is weldable if preheated. I have welded them before with good luck.
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where is chop shop, and WT now?:stirpot::redneck:
 
Longfield are you sure that is in fact what they said? maybe when they said it was a forging the were referring to the forge or where the metal is heated :eeek: hmmm debate to follow :corn:
 
PUO said:
Longfield are you sure that is in fact what they said? maybe when they said it was a forging the were referring to the forge or where the metal is heated :eeek: hmmm debate to follow :corn:
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Its a casting not a forging ,i read to much of this and had forging was on my mind sorry i'll change it.
 
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