jeep vs toyota vs buggy

Clark · May 20, 2009

yeah i have some extra POS Toyota i DD for expeditions:fawkdancesmiley:

Money Mark · May 20, 2009

I did nothing. I just drive it. $45K could buy you a rig like mine.

Clark · May 20, 2009

is that used or fresh built? fresh built i'm assuming

Money Mark · May 20, 2009

Fresh and ready to get f*cked up.

Clark · May 20, 2009

Thanks Money:awesomework:

Well i know i can afford to build a buggy off an s&n chassis with a little time, but i won't be calling myself moneyclark anytime soon, so turnkey is out the door unless they offer 0% finance, and take trade-ins:haha:

I think i'll be talking to S&N in the near future, have them build me a chassis, and build the rest myself. I could have it done for next season, and wheel my dd this season while i'm working on the buggy:stirpot:

pokey · May 20, 2009

darius said:
So when did you do this, let's be realistic..... Maybe one time

Several times sometimes a couple of times a year with lots of shorter one day type trip we call lunch runs while you guys are working:redneck:

Money Mark said:
Don't pick on Pokey guys. He's just old skool. He still thinks that "hardcore" is driving long distances to mild wheeling destinations in a POS Jeep. Just getting the rig there and back (was) a challange to be proud of completing. Not so much anymore.......

Good exapmle: Mark m. is an older guy that has seen the progression AND been a part of it. Whereas Pokey has only seen the porgession from a distance. This must be very frusterating for him (and others like him) so the only alternative is to justify his old skool ways in the current "hardcore" enviroment.

At least that's that way I see it.

And P.S. When Mark and I wheel, we usually wheel for 10-12-14 hours.....hard ****.......long ****......all the ****. Basically, similar to a "day run" to Naches, to Rim Rock and back to home. Something to think about.

But to keep this post on track, I don't believe Clark W wants an expedition type vehicle.....so this is all a moot point.

Andrew-Dice-Clay-"OOHHH!":redneck:

Oh that hurts Mr I am so hardcore :haha: Go take out another loan or swipe that credit card and BUY yet another rig that someone else built and fixes :haha: Mark M is impressive and has learned to wheel what he likes but your just another Visa card wheeler:haha::haha::haha::haha:
And you have to run for 10 -12 hours because you cant take a road to get back. You HAVE to run the same trail back and forth. And thats my only point of being legal so get over it :awesomework:

CHOP SHOP · May 20, 2009

Money Mark said:
Don't pick on Pokey guys. He's just old skool. He still thinks that "hardcore" is driving long distances to mild wheeling destinations in a POS Jeep. Just getting the rig there and back (was) a challange to be proud of completing. Not so much anymore.......

Good exapmle: Mark m. is an older guy that has seen the progression AND been a part of it. Whereas Pokey has only seen the porgession from a distance. This must be very frusterating for him (and others like him) so the only alternative is to justify his old skool ways in the current "hardcore" enviroment.

At least that's that way I see it.

And P.S. When Mark and I wheel, we usually wheel for 10-12-14 hours.....hard ****.......long ****......all the ****. Basically, similar to a "day run" to Naches, to Rim Rock and back to home. Something to think about.

But to keep this post on track, I don't believe Clark W wants an expedition type vehicle.....so this is all a moot point.

Andrew-Dice-Clay-"OOHHH!":redneck:

pokey said:
Several times sometimes a couple of times a year with lots of shorter one day type trip we call lunch runs while you guys are working:redneck:

Oh that hurts Mr I am so hardcore :haha: Go take out another loan or swipe that credit card and BUY yet another rig that someone else built and fixes :haha: Mark M is impressive and has learned to wheel what he likes but your just another Visa card wheeler:haha::haha::haha::haha:
And you have to run for 10 -12 hours because you cant take a road to get back. You HAVE to run the same trail back and forth. And thats my only point of being legal so get over it :awesomework:

Oh fawk, I pissed myself.:haha::haha: Money hit it right on the head and touched a nerve as well!!:awesomework:

and jim, money wheels the same way in a non credit card needed totaled cheroke too.:kissmyass::haha::haha:

Jim, what do you wheel?:corn:

crash2 · May 20, 2009

Lets keep this on track folks. I won't ask again

thank you

CHOP SHOP · May 20, 2009

crash said:
Lets keep this on track folks. I won't ask again

thank you

crash, why havent you built a buggy? In all seriousness. You got a soft spot for the old truck or what? The toy has all the right parts to fill a new chassis? Why not?

crash2 · May 20, 2009

CHOP SHOP said:
crash, why havent you built a buggy? In all seriousness. You got a soft spot for the old truck or what? The toy has all the right parts to fill a new chassis? Why not?

It has never apealed to me to be honest. I have thought about it and rolled ideas around in my head.

Now if I was to build a rig for out of state use only then I would.....

Mark m. · May 20, 2009

Do you like to wheel in the winter time? How about in the rain? If you go buggy this is something to think about. I'm slowly getting use to wheelin my buggy in the crappy weather we have most of the time but I like to wheel year round so I keep my truck for the snow and the real rainy days.
If I lived somewhere like AZ, Cali, NV. It would be nothing but a S&N Buggy!

Damnyankee · May 20, 2009

Mark m. said:
Do you like to wheel in the winter time? How about in the rain? If you go buggy this is something to think about. I'm slowly getting use to wheelin my buggy in the crappy weather we have most of the time but I like to wheel year round so I keep my truck for the snow and the real rainy days.
If I lived somewhere like AZ, Cali, NV. It would be nothing but a S&N Buggy!

this is the ONLY reason my rig is still full bodies. Wife and kids don't like to go wheeling when its cold and nasty, so it keeps everybody dry.

if i live in those areas, it would be chopped behind the doors

Clark · May 20, 2009

yeah the weather isn't really an issue to me:fawkdancesmiley:. i can either wheel a toy, or not wheel at all when it's really crappy out, and even then i like it cold. my family doesn't like wheeling so i've got no one to keep warm and dry either, that's another reason i sold the 4runner, it's a waste of space when you are wheeling solo or with a winch bitch.:fawkdancesmiley:

Digger 5 · May 20, 2009

The point here is how you enjoy your version of our sport. If you're into 6 hours at funny rocks you're going to want a buggy. If you're into trail (not just short Reiter or Evans style but Naches/Rimrock style) running, you'll probably want a more 'legal' type rig. It's not to say you can't do both with either type of rig it's just that one type of rig is more appropriate for each area.

EVERY rig is a compromise. Build your rig for where you want to wheel.

Not Jobless · May 20, 2009

If you have to ask then you ain't ready for a buggy.

Pook · May 20, 2009

Buggies are not for everyone.

I personally have no desire to drive my wheeling rig on the street. I prefer to trailer and enjoy knowing I always have a ride home all I need to do is make it back to the towrig.

I don't like wheeling in the rain regardless of what I'm wheeling so an open high visibilty buggy does me just fine.

Damnyankee · May 20, 2009

ok pook, thats silly, you live in the lower main land and don't like the rain?
wierd...

Clark · May 20, 2009

Jackazz said:
If you have to ask then you ain't ready for a buggy.

ask what?

nick c · May 20, 2009

ClarkW said:
I plan on v8 power, linked, 60/14, and 39-42's, in any of the 3. If you had a fresh slate, time and money to build a new rig, which cult would you join? :stirpot:

I didn't read any of this thread, i've seen these threads many times on various boards. Everyone will have their opinion. Mine is just like everyone elses take it or leave it.

I'm in the midst of a build right now. And I am currently wishing I would have just bought a pre-built chassis from a company like S&N. It would have saved a lot of time, frustration and money. And then you can still put in whatever powertrain you want. If your going the route you mention, I have to say a tube-chassis is the way to go.

Granted I still believe my rig will be more unique and I will enjoy it once its done more then a tube chassis. But you'll go through alot of frustration trying to make a truck/truggy perform like a tube chassis rig.