Never ending Samurai build...

TBItoy · Aug 2, 2016

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Yota steering u joints have the split bolt but are splined. You can rough up the shaft and clamp the piss out of it and it'll work fine.

Even if it happens to slip, the cross bolt will keep it from spinning.

paradisepwoffrd · Aug 2, 2016

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TBItoy said:
Yota steering u joints have the split bolt but are splined. You can rough up the shaft and clamp the piss out of it and it'll work fine.

Even if it happens to slip, the cross bolt will keep it from spinning.

I've don't this same thing with zuk and bronco ujoints.

Markrobinson · Aug 4, 2016

If you can't find a Toyota, Nissan pathfinders use pretty much the same u joints. I just added trail gear's orbital and column when I added full hydro on mine and the splines are the same.

Figured I'd mention it because it seems like when I go to the PnP there's plenty of 1987-1995 pathfinders and few Toyotas.

Good looking build; makes me mad that I parted out my little Sami buggy.

clemsonjeep · Aug 10, 2016

Should have it on its own weight tonight.

clemsonjeep · Aug 10, 2016

Whewww...finally back on the ground and I got started mocking up the orbital and made up a steering shaft for it using the parts I already had on it.

Should have it running tomorrow...hopefully be able to drive it.

mckeddie · Aug 13, 2016

Looks awesome! This is still my favorite build on here. Hope it still works and climbs as well as it did we leafs up front.

clemsonjeep · Aug 13, 2016

Finally got to drive it today...the first 4-5 mins were good but then the steering pump started getting loud. Fluid is topped off and it's the same steering both directions but it is quiet sitting still at idle.

I'm running the TG full hydro pump, 6" double ended ram, the 7.6 ci/rev orbital, and the economy reservoir. I pulled the cap on the res while it was running and took a picture to see if someone can let me know if what I saw was normal. I also took two videos one at idle and one slightly revved up.

Really makes it look like it's sucking a lot of air and the fluid is frothing up. Did I need a reservoir with a baffle? Or did I just get a bad pump?

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Rokcrler · Aug 13, 2016

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Is the fluid swirling in the resi?

clemsonjeep · Aug 13, 2016

Rokcrler said:
Is the fluid swirling in the resi?

Yes...and you can hear it sucking air. Now that I compare other brands of reservoirs I see they have the return and feed at the bottom of the res...which makes sense. The fluid is clear...it looks milky due to all the air in it...frothy.

Rokcrler · Aug 13, 2016

Thats odd, i have never seen PS fluid swirl like that and ive ran the same resi.

Swirling around like that will cause the feed at the bottom to suck in air at the end of the vortex and that will lead to damaging your pump.

Curious as to how you have your steering setup ran. Pics?

disclaimer: i am by no means a hydro expert, hell, im no expert in anything period... :dblthumb:

clemsonjeep · Aug 13, 2016

Here's the pics...

Feed line from reservoir to pump...

Line from pump to orbital and others...

clemsonjeep · Aug 13, 2016

I know it never did the swirling thing with the hydro assist setup. The reservoir is in the same location as well as the pump and the feed line is the same one too.

It might fix itself if I'd just keep working with it. I've got back and read the instructions online again and they say to cycle it several times and then shut it off and wait for it to cool completely and let all the bubbles out. This was only the second time running it...

ToyotaTom · Aug 13, 2016

I had a similar issue with my hydro assist. I had air in my system. Jack up the front end while it's running, turn it to full lock both directions like 20 times with the cap off the res. Have some one watch the res while you are doing this in case it needs more fluid.

clemsonjeep · Aug 13, 2016

Thanks...tomorrow morning I plan to jack it up and turn it lock to lock a few times with the engine off and watch for bubbles. Then I'll do it with it running too. That seems to be a common ritual with the full hydro setup. I don't remember having to do any of this with the assist setup, but then again that was over 7 years ago.

sleepsontoilet · Aug 14, 2016

In my limited knowledge, your reservoir is way too far from the pump. I would try and move it directly on top. Picture climbing a vertical ledge, your reservoir is now behind/below the pump no longer gravity feeding it. Best pic I have of mine, and I've been told it's still too far away by experts.

infamous1 · Aug 14, 2016

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Ryan i really don't like that resi location either just for the record.

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easleycrawler · Aug 14, 2016

That's weird. I didn't have those issues when I switched to full hydro. But I did the lock to lock thing with the front end off the ground.

clemsonjeep · Aug 14, 2016

Well theres really no way to move it closer to the pump and keep the outlet above the inlet on the pump. You won't catch me cutting a hole in the hood just to have a reservoir poking through. I can't see how full hydro would be that much different than assist as far as the fluid movement. I never had any issues with my assist setup...and most people that ever drove mine said it steered easier than most rigs they'd driven. It also never starved/whined when on steep climbs.

I'll keep this in mind if I can't get it sorted out but for now I'll keep working on making sure its bled completely. I did the lock to lock turns with engine off and engine on several times throughout today while I was working in the shop and it seems to get better each time.

infamous1 · Aug 15, 2016

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You don't need no stinking hood!!! I have never really had any issues bleeding mine but it is a SE ram. I do the wheels up lock to lock deal though.

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